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Offline redmerle

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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2013, 07:42:26 AM »
*Originally Posted by kbar800 [+]
Does any Adventure Bikes design make your jaw drop, and if you owned one, would you go into the garage to just stare at its beauty?   - Dont think so, is more about functionality.

Adventure bikes can be good looking bikes, in a brutal kind of way.

The R1200GS does brutal good looks, even more effectively than the Explorer if I'm honest! :005: (although the Triumph is a lot nicer to ride!  :028:)

The Suzuki seems to have missed the point. It's an ordinary looking, slab sided bike, with a beak and some odd plastic cladding  :187:  Even the "single" headlamp can't raise it into the ugly, yet distinctive, category  :003:  I'm surprised that the price difference with the Explorer is only around 1,000 though...

Like the look of the current Swift though, it's evolved into a nice looking car (with a style all it's own) with the Mk II  :028:

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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2013, 01:49:20 PM »

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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2013, 02:38:37 PM »

Like the look of the current Swift though, it's evolved into a nice looking car (with a style all it's own) with the Mk II  :028:
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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2013, 05:30:19 PM »
This year, in the USA, the Suzuki car importer went bankrupt. Of course, a few years ago, they tried to sell a car with a 2.5 liter in-line six under the hood -- front-drive, so the engine was cross-ways -- and, of course being USA, only auto-trans.
They did sell some Swifts here -- years ago -- but, not many of the Pocket Rockets.
Suzuki (motorcycles), generally, is suffering in the USA -- lots of old inventory sitting around. It would be very good for them if the new V-Strom 1K finds some acceptance -- and sales...  :169:
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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2013, 11:05:14 AM »
Went to the V Strom launch last night (first in England), and had good look at the bike.
And well its pretty ordinary and no match for Tiger on looks or price.
100 BHP & 103 ft-lbs of Torque but the salesman had 73 Torques  on his info??
Free centre stand & heated grips if you ordered one on the night, for February delivery so nothing spectacular there then!
I think Suzuki will sell quite a few to the must have brigade but just another Japanese characterless copy adventure bike.
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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2013, 05:14:10 PM »
Suzuki claims an output of 98.6 hp at 8000 rpm and 76.0 ft-lb. at 4000 rpm.
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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2013, 08:17:26 AM »
*Originally Posted by kbar800 [+]
Went to the V Strom launch last night (first in England), and had good look at the bike.
And well its pretty ordinary and no match for Tiger on looks or price.
100 BHP & 103 ft-lbs of Torque but the salesman had 73 Torques  on his info??
Free centre stand & heated grips if you ordered one on the night, for February delivery so nothing spectacular there then!
I think Suzuki will sell quite a few to the must have brigade but just another Japanese characterless copy adventure bike.
Tigers Still Rule  :064:

Interesting to hear your findings.

I'm a bit surprised that it's a 10,000, 1,000cc, adventure bike and you still need to buy a centre stand as an extra....  :187:

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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2013, 10:36:08 AM »

I did fill in customer feedback form & added that some basics should be standard at 10k !

Worst thing is the totally exposed front exhaust & sensor - which is just looking to be bashed. No bash plate at all ! - have to buy it !!
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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2013, 10:49:40 AM »
Why do people always accuse suzuki of coppying,the v strom 1000,as been out since 2002,they were the first to put beeks on there bikes,when raceing the dakar back in the day,which transfered to production bikes, they had 750,800cc trailee,adventure bikes in the 1980s,which probably even now are better offroad than the,800 gs,800xc,suzuki as a very impressive record in off road raceing,if anyone in the west midlands is interested ive been told the new 1000 v strom, will be in streetbike,halesowen on november 1st.
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Re: new v strom 1000
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2013, 07:38:06 PM »
Just read the review in ABR Issue 19 and it's certainly looking a bit GS/Tiger like, not to say they copied but definately similar. The front pipes look darn ugly though.

They've at least done a sensible thing by having removable pillion pegs which appear to be on the Tiger Owner wish list. Can't say they've copied Triumph/BMW their as it seems most of the other mainstreams have this, R1, SV650  :001:, Multistrada, Tenere (660 & 1200).

Maybe it's a sports bike thing as the Daytona has them as well so Triumph have obviously considered them somewhere but decided to copy BMW instead for the Tiger 800 but hang on...not the Explorer, maybe they're learning.

Exhaust looks as big and clunky as the OEM Tiger one as well and with the hanger, don't know why they bothered with the detachable footpegs.

 


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