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Offline bigcountry

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800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« on: March 28, 2014, 04:08:33 PM »
** I posted this same query in the 800 forum as well so I could get both communities.
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Current 2010 Black 1050 owner.  I'm 6'4"/250lbs.   I am vacillating between the 1200 explore XC and the 800 XC.  During a recent SIDI boot purchase with Revzilla I was talking the sales rep, we discussed by current bike and I told him that I really wanted one of the new adventure models and he mentioned that he was 6'3" 235 and the 800 XC was more than plenty. 

He also mentioned that the 1050 Tiger was his favorite bike as well. 

Current riding:  Commuting to work - 100 mile round trip.  Weekend rides pavement and off road.   Quarterly camping trips to Western North Carolina, VA, GA, and TN and I normally hall (tent, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, tools, cooking gear, chow, propane/jet boil, toiletries, chair, and tools) I am not a minimalist. I want the nights to be comfortable.   All said, when it all adds up its about 400 lbs on the back of my bike.  I swap out my corbin seat with the OEM seat.  The corbin is too heavy. 

My buddy brings his girlfriend on the back of his 800XC will all the same gear I just mentioned above-he has absolutely no issues and he can really ride through the twisties with his girlfriend on the back during the Friday/Saturday rides.... 

What are your thoughts wrt my size/riding styles and the most appropriate bike.   I get the whatever makes you happy thing but I wanted to hear from some current owners what the thought process was given my details...   

I dont want to taint you answers - but I was leaning towards the 1200 until I talked to the Revzilla guy.

Cheers BC   
Big Country

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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2014, 05:11:46 PM »
the 1200 is a great bike: especially for longrange touring stuff:

However, the 800 will do all the touring you need, I guess: plus given that you do a lot of commuting, I would personally go for the 800 as it is nipper in the traffic etc.   

the 800 will carry you plus all the gear you need   for your camping/touring:   

Personally if I was only doing long range touring stuff I might (only might) go 1200: but to do all round: I would go 800.   

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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2014, 05:25:49 PM »
Hi

I like you are tall at 6' 5'' with very dodgy knees  :151:

I have ridden all three bikes plus most of the opposition  :152:

I ride all year round and do One large tour 2 up once a year.

The Tiger 8XC with the comfort sear on high and Motech footpegs on Low give the most comfortable ride of any of the adventure style bikes, the wife don't complain either  :046:

I find the light weight and very frisky engine the Tiger 8 gives is more than enough to keep me very happy on the tight twisty roads I ride and it will double as a tourer for 2 weeks with panniers and Givi top box.

My next bike will be the face lift XC when it arrives  :047: :046: :152: :031: :123:
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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2014, 05:45:57 PM »
800 goes easily to 150km/h, after that acceleration starts to slow down. Top speed is at 200km/h. If you require higher top speed, then go for 1200. Personally I enjoy most small twisty roads and dirt roads with speeds typically around 80-100km/h. I guess a slightly lighter bike than 800 would be perfect for me. Speed limits here are max 120km/h on highways, so no point of having a faster (and bulkier) bike. If you ride speeds 150 and above then 1200 would be great?

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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2014, 06:38:18 PM »
*Originally Posted by bigcountry [+]
I'm 6'4"/250lbs.   I am vacillating between the 1200 explore XC and the 800 XC. 
...I normally haul (tent, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, tools, cooking gear, chow, propane/jet boil, toiletries, chair, and tools) I am not a minimalist. I want the nights to be comfortable.   All said, when it all adds up its about 400 lbs on the back of my bike.
What are your thoughts...most appropriate bike.
...I was leaning towards the 1200...
I'd recco continued leaning that way -- with your predilection for "more", a 1200 may be a better choice? With the 1200 you get more of just about everything -- including things like traction control and cruise control.
An 800 will probably do the job? -- but, why have any limits? -- (in your case) Go Big...  :028:
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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2014, 07:30:42 PM »
The max payload specified for the Tiger 800 is 496lb (a bit less for the XC), so you are looking to exceed it if you plan on hauling 400lb of luggage. I don't know what the Explorers payload is.
Sounds like a significant part of your usage will be touring with a lot of gear. I'd be leaning toward the 1200 too, I think.

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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2014, 07:40:40 PM »
I'm in about the same position as you, looking to up date my Girlie.  I'm 4 inches shorter so I can't answer to the size/fit portion.  I was looking at an Explorer XC and the 800 XC.  I've thrown the Explorer out of consideration, too heavy for the dirt and backroads I travel plus it's got a shaft and shafts don't go bad easy. . . they go out with a bang.  Until there is more time on the shaft to prove it is reliable, I'm sticking with the chain drive.

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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 10:46:30 AM »
Tiger 800.

If you're willing and able to spend half as much again, Explorer.

Either way you won't go far wrong - depends if money's no object...

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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2014, 01:04:45 PM »
Thanks everybody,

Many thoughts going through my head about this issue. 

A buddy of mine if going to Okinawa for three years and he want's to off-load his KLR 650 on me because of the Japanese conversion process....it's just too costly for him to take it.  So, if I take that off his hands I think I will opt of the 1200 XC (my dealer is offering the three bag set (although I will get the Trek set from twisted throttle), heated seat, grips, adjustable levers) for a 2013;or, or, or, just keep my 1050.   I have to be honest gents-I love my 1050 tiger and I'm really used to it.  It has handled all the weight I discussed earlier.

For my Aussie mates, I used to live in Darwin and I often road down to Alice and Broome(only took the Gibb River road once in a land cruiser).  I plan on going back to visit my mates and take my bike with me and repeat both trips and eventually visit my brother in Melbourne.  That said, I think the 1200 may do it easier than the 800 (both XC variants).  I wouldn't take the 1050 on the gibb.

And yes, money if always an issue it's either in the bank or in my garage:)   I can't ride the bank vault:) 

Great Forum thanks guys.   

Big Country

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Re: 800XC, 1200XC, or stay with my 1050 Tiger
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2014, 05:09:35 PM »
My two cents - By adding the 650 to the stable, You have no real need for another dual sport - just keep the 1050!