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Offline OHRider

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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2017, 12:31:00 PM »
*Originally Posted by ENGLISHBANDIT [+]
thanks mate they really are sh*t tyres got to get them off. they are ok if you only want to go straight

Could the problem with the METZELER TORRANCE NEXT be because the 100/90-19 is not a radial like the rear (150/70R-17)?  I was always told that you did not mix bias and radial tires. Nobody makes a 100/90-19 in a radial. METZELER show the 110/80R-19 as a replacement for the front. The web site also shows the ROADTEC 01 as a replacement for the NEXT. I am going to try the ROADTEC 01 on my next tire change.

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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2017, 02:28:55 PM »
no the 100/90/19 is the recommended tyre. and to be honest i have just put on a set of bt023 and the front is 110/80/19 and bike is not as stable with that on. but Triumph say you can use 100/90/19 or 110/80/19  so should not matter
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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2017, 03:36:49 PM »
I have put Avon Trailrider 110/80 19 on the front of both my Tigers and the improvement in handling over the Scopion and Next OEM tyres is like magic happened.
A radial front is more suspectible to punctures in off road situations than the bias ply tyres that are standard so I suspect that is why Triumph go with the bias ply tyres.

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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2017, 05:24:30 PM »
*Originally Posted by K1W1 [+]
I have put Avon Trailrider 110/80 19 on the front of both my Tigers and the improvement in handling over the Scopion and Next OEM tyres is like magic happened.
Whilst there may be quantitative tests / evaluations for "handling"?, it's mostly a value judgement (IE, up to the individual...).
Maybe, especially true when it comes to motorcycle handling?
"Handling" attempts to describe the way a m/c responds and reacts to the inputs of the rider.
Handling is a property of the m/c, but different characteristics will work well with different riders. Handling is not necessarily good or bad -- it can also be 'the same' or 'different'.

*Originally Posted by K1W1 [+]
A radial front is more suspectible to punctures in off road situations than the bias ply tyres that are standard so I suspect that is why Triumph go with the bias ply tyres.
Triumph's engineering requirements may've emphasized the Tiger800's "all-rounder" attributes over handling? M/Cs that tend to emphasize handling over other considerations are often called sport-bikes.

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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2017, 09:10:35 PM »
I will just ring its neck a bit more lol. But all things aside it does grip the road better. Will just see how they go.
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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2017, 10:20:59 PM »
*Originally Posted by OHRider [+]
I was always told that you did not mix bias and radial tires.

..... on the same axle, which the Tiger complies with, they are not mixed. That statement applies to cars, etc.  :028:
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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2017, 10:41:19 PM »
*Originally Posted by ENGLISHBANDIT [+]
no the 100/90/19 is the recommended tyre. and to be honest i have just put on a set of bt023 and the front is 110/80/19 and bike is not as stable with that on. but Triumph say you can use 100/90/19 or 110/80/19  so should not matter

Purely as an observation based on the numerous tyre posts over 2yrs of membership and lack of Bridgestone chosen choice related/user posts maybe your choice of BT23 just doesn't suit the Tiger as well as it has your previous bikes?  :027:

I only recall one or two members saying they are happy with 100/90-19 so haven't gone/tried 110/80-19 and only positive feedback from the masses who have gone 110/80-19 radial, the main 100/90 bias moan being bad whitelining which the 110/80 rectifies (certainly did for me).  :028:
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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2017, 09:36:17 PM »
It's not a problem really will give them 2 or 3 more rides outs. If I really am not happy with them will just take them off. I will only get 3000 miles out of these so won't be on long anyway if I keep them on. I will know on the next clear day. I will get out and do 2 or 300 miles ride on the twisty roads. I will know by the end of that ride. But again they stick to the road really well. The sh*t I took off the bike was  fine for motorway or miss daisy riding, but if you push the bike they did not hold the road very well and would hate to use them in the wet. I know the bt023 tyre is good in both wet and dry. So will see how they go. And yes we all know 99% of tyres are good it's just a personal choice
« Last Edit: July 20, 2017, 09:43:06 PM by ENGLISHBANDIT »
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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2017, 04:41:37 PM »
*Originally Posted by Stevie.P [+]
Purely as an observation based on the numerous tyre posts over 2yrs of membership and lack of Bridgestone chosen choice related/user posts maybe your choice of BT23 just doesn't suit the Tiger as well as it has your previous bikes?  :027:

I've gone with the successor to the BT023 , the T30 Evo. BT023s worked well on my Tiger 1050 (and, indeed, a Trophyand a Sprint ST 955i). The T30 Evo has the same characteristic as ENGLISHBANDIT mentions in another post, a definite eagerness to drop in, and now I'm used to it, it feels fine.
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Re: tyres size . will 110/80/19 be ok for the front.
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2017, 07:13:03 PM »
Took bike out again today. Really happy now with the swop, bike still drops low on bends but sticks like sh*t to the road. I have no chicken strips on these that's how far it gos over. Even scraped the pegs today and my bloody boot. When I took bike out today it did not feel bad. I think the problem before was going from one to the other in same day just made it feel worse than it really was . But one thing I am sure of the bt023 stick to the road like a tyre should ,not like the crap that was on there. Very happy with them now, they do drop low on bends but now I have got used to them on this bike it's not a problem. And as I like to ride it lie I stole it,It really does hold the road now. I get my new Nitron shock Tuesday so bike should be even better. May get forks done over winter
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 04:50:05 PM by ENGLISHBANDIT »
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