Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email
?
March 09, 2021, 07:12:27 AM
Home
Forum
Search
Members Map
Photos Gallery
Login
Register
Triumph Tiger 800 Forum
»
Tiger 800 / 900 - Main Discussion Section
»
General Maintenance and Servicing
»
12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
Print
Pages: [
1
]
2
3
...
9
Go Down
Author
Topic: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking? (Read 18630 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
JonesTheBass
Tiger Pro
Posts: 109
Bike: Tiger 800xrt
Location: Manchester
12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
on:
September 24, 2017, 12:36:47 PM »
I'm due the 12k service (done ~11k over 28 months). The manual states valve clearance check but this sounds early and I'm getting some mixed messages from the dealer. A valve check on my last bike, Honda CBF1000, at 16k miles showed no need and most owners wait until the 24k or 32k service.
Other factor is quoted cost as ~£500, plus another £100 if any shimming needs to be done!
Experience and advise welcome!
Logged
Rtwo
Tiger Jedi
Posts: 4528
Bike: KTM 1290 SAS
Location: Co. Durham
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #1 on:
September 24, 2017, 12:43:48 PM »
Yes, check them
Lots of bikes need shim adjustment at the 12K point and then not again for quite a while
Logged
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
....George Orwell
Check the Facts !!
Cats
Tiger Master
Posts: 419
Bike: 800XC
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #2 on:
September 24, 2017, 02:07:44 PM »
Definitely.
I do my own servicing and at the 12000 mile service, actually 13000, I found 5 valves needed adjustment.
If you can do it yourself, do so. You know it's been done then and not hoping that the stealer did actually do it.
Logged
Tigerider
Tiger Pro
Posts: 143
Just another day for another ride!
Bike: Tiger ABS
Location: The Hooniverse
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #3 on:
September 24, 2017, 03:10:44 PM »
It's not worth the risk to not have them checked....& yes, you could get up to 24k mls with no mechanical failure, but what would the cost be if your money saving scheme went wrong.
l just had mine done at 13k & only one exhaust valve needed checking, it cost me *$230 at a local qualified independent mechanic but my motto is "Better Safe Than Sorry!"
*about 170 quid!
Logged
Call me Dave
Alunr
Tiger Master
Posts: 366
Alun
Bike: Tiger 800
Location: Gloucestershire
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #4 on:
September 24, 2017, 03:32:24 PM »
Originally Posted by
JonesTheBass
I'm due the 12k service (done ~11k over 28 months). The manual states valve clearance check but this sounds early and I'm getting some mixed messages from the dealer. A valve check on my last bike, Honda CBF1000, at 16k miles showed no need and most owners wait until the 24k or 32k service.
Other factor is quoted cost as ~£500, plus another £100 if any shimming needs to be done!
Experience and advise welcome!
If you don't want to do it yourself or pay dealer prices, I would recommend David Muddy Sump. He did my 12k service, including checking valve clearances, for well under that price. Thoroughly recommend him.
Logged
Give a man a fish and he'll demand chips, a six pack of stella, 20 fags and a scratch card to go with it. Make him do some work for his fish. He'll aporeciate it more.
AvgBear
Tiger Jedi
Posts: 3009
Bike: '12 Venom Roadie
Location: Missouri USA
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #5 on:
September 24, 2017, 05:41:14 PM »
Originally Posted by
JonesTheBass
Experience and advise welcome!
Originally Posted by
Tigerider
It's not worth the risk to not have them checked....& yes, you could get up to 24k mls with no mechanical failure, but what would the cost be if your money saving scheme went wrong.
A contrarian view:
Whilst it's certainly nice to have a well-tuned and adjusted engine, no mechanical failure is likely to occur from incorrect valve clearances.
The normal sequence of events (if they happen at-all?) is for the valve clearances to decrease over time along with a small decrease (but, maybe not noticeable?) in engine performance.
Ultimately, the engine's valves and valve seats will wear to the point of needing replacement/resurfacing after many tens-of-thousands of miles and years of use -- whether kept in proper adjustment, or not.
In the automotive world, engines with shim & bucket valve clearance adjustment are ubiquitous -- and, checking/adjustment largely ignored.
Logged
“There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true.”
WSC
johnnyboy101
Tiger Member
Posts: 61
Bike: tiger800
Location: gloucestershire
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #6 on:
September 24, 2017, 05:52:52 PM »
+1 for muddy sump. I was quoted 700 quid for 12,000 service from dealer !! Muddy sump a lot cheaper than that and a very professional service
Logged
dunkymunky
Tiger Master
Posts: 285
Bike: 2011 Tiger 800XC
Location: Norfolk
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #7 on:
September 24, 2017, 06:46:26 PM »
My Triumph dealer told me not to do them!
It's now coming up to the 24k service and the engine sounds like a bag of spanners.
I would get them done for sure!
Logged
Tigerider
Tiger Pro
Posts: 143
Just another day for another ride!
Bike: Tiger ABS
Location: The Hooniverse
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #8 on:
September 24, 2017, 10:56:49 PM »
Originally Posted by
AvgBear
A contrarian view:
Whilst it's certainly nice to have a well-tuned and adjusted engine,
no mechanical failure is likely to occur from incorrect valve clearances.
A contrarian contrarian view......
Yes it is!
https://repairpal.com/valve-clearance-check-adjust
https://itstillruns.com/problems-caused-bad-valve-adjustment-6875444.html
https://repairpal.com/valve-clearance-check-adjust
And the above references are to LOW revving engines!!!!
Logged
Call me Dave
chico
Tiger Jedi
Posts: 1264
Bike: 2017 XRX
Location: Suffern, NY, US
Re: 12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
«
Reply #9 on:
September 25, 2017, 01:18:45 AM »
The bottom line is as we call it on our side of the pond, a crap shoot, or roll of the dice. The answer to whether you need to have it done is unfortunately unknown until it's done. If the engine needs the valves re-shimmed then you need it done. If they're OK then you have the peace of mind.
Chico
Logged
Print
Pages: [
1
]
2
3
...
9
Go Up
Triumph Tiger 800 Forum
»
Tiger 800 / 900 - Main Discussion Section
»
General Maintenance and Servicing
»
12,000 mile service...do the valves really need checking?
Recent Topics
Where to fit Sat Nav on new 2018 Tiger 800
[
Tiger 800 / 900 - General Discussion
]
SeamusW
Today
at 12:14:16 AM
Hepco and Becker upper tank protection bars issue. Tiger 900
[
Tiger 800 / 900 - General Discussion
]
dragon88
Yesterday
at 11:46:14 PM
Broken aux cover / accessory outlet cover
[
Electrical, Lighting, and Wiring
]
Derchef1962
Yesterday
at 10:58:03 PM
Hi from B'ham
[
New Members
]
Stevie.P
Yesterday
at 10:41:56 PM
Greetings from Texas!
[
New Members
]
TIger Lad
Yesterday
at 10:26:43 PM
For sale tiger 800 xcx Downpipes will fit all 2015 with cat
[
For Sale
]
ronaldo
Yesterday
at 10:14:13 PM
Mark Barrett, Marks Motorcycle Parts Service manual - should I do a reprint?
[
General Maintenance and Servicing
]
jeffa
Yesterday
at 09:35:21 PM
Drained coolant!
[
General Maintenance and Servicing
]
BurntEnds
Yesterday
at 07:52:10 PM
Swing arm greasing advise
[
General Maintenance and Servicing
]
BurntEnds
Yesterday
at 07:47:26 PM
givi trekker out back 42l
[
Items "Wanted"
]
ped
Yesterday
at 07:03:29 PM
winded-staunch