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Offline Grumps

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Re: Thinking of returning.
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2018, 12:46:28 PM »
I find it odd that Triumph used tubeless rims on my spoked Tex but not on the Xca.

Oh well......just ride it!
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Offline DonVulpes

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Re: Thinking of returning.
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2018, 04:44:51 PM »
*Originally Posted by Grumps [+]
I find it odd that Triumph used tubeless rims on my spoked Tex but not on the Xca.

Oh well......just ride it!

Yeah  :028:

I'm surprised for what the bikes are really intended for they don't offer tubeless OEM. Thruxton is the same  :125:
Doesn't matter where I'm going, getting there on two wheels is always the better option.

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Re: Thinking of returning.
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2018, 09:03:03 PM »
Regarding the front wheel and the bead or rim hook that I have heard mention. What is it? Apparently the rear rim has one which means you can do a conversion on that one but not the front..! The front doesnt really bother me too much as a flat is easy to fix there. The rear can be a bitch though. Still Im just curious as to how it is possible on the rear but not the front? :001:

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Re: Thinking of returning.
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2018, 09:15:26 PM »
Not a motorcycle rim but it'll give you the idea

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Re: Thinking of returning.
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2018, 09:55:03 PM »
Thanks Rtwo  :002: , I can see the difference now but why does this make a tubeless conversion not such a good idea on the front. I mean tube or no tube the front tyre doesnt seem anymore secure? Or does it?

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Re: Thinking of returning.
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2018, 03:48:24 PM »
*Originally Posted by Radzz [+]
I can see the difference now but why does this make a tubeless conversion not such a good idea on the front. I mean tube or no tube the front tyre doesnt seem anymore secure? Or does it?
Re the tube-type spoked rim (as T800 XC): the lack of a bead-area rim design to secure/seal the the tire bead to the rim - not needed w/inner-tube air chamber - renders the rim less capable of a satisfactory seal and, thus, offers the possibility of air loss.
And, no, the old-style (non-tubeless bead-area design) doesn't secure the tire any better -- whether with a tube or without.
But, with an inner tube, the air within is more secure.
Contrarily, the XC's rear spoked wheel has a rim with a tire-bead seating area designed for tubeless tires -- but, that's the only part of the rear wheel that's tubeless-ready.
Thus creating added difficulty when tire-changing as tubeless are often more difficult to dismount and fit. An issue accepted with tubeless / tubeless -- but, a bit more problematic when an inner-tube needs to be fitted concurrently.
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Re: Thinking of returning.
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2018, 04:22:23 PM »
Thanks AvgBear!... Great explanation. I get it now. So its probably best I keep a tube in the front I reckon.  I run the pressures lowish as I ride a fair few of gravel roads and tracks and the front tyre doesnt seal against the rim that well already ive noticed.
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