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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2018, 11:41:49 AM »
I got it now RTwo  :152:

Hopefully Muddysump won't need to use it in February
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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2018, 12:12:11 PM »
*Originally Posted by grizzlybear [+]
I got it now RTwo  :152:

Hopefully Muddysump won't need to use it in February

You're the official keeper of the gasket  :001:
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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2019, 11:03:06 AM »
I stripped my 2015 xrx down a couple of days ago, all the intlets were in spec but all the exhaust were tight so have had to order a few shims which I'm waiting for so I can put it all back together.

Reading the Triumph maintenance manual it seems that the camshafts have to be re-timed at 12k miles on the 2015 onwards engines, has anyone actually done it as seems to be a good few pounds worth of specialist tools or is it safe to just put back together as was?.

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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2019, 07:35:28 PM »
I too am interested in the 20,000 km s cam timing adjustment info'.

This thread has some useful info', in particular the part no's of the special tools.  A fellow inmate in USA GearHd6 did it and was happy he did and noticed a positive difference when he had finished the job

https://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,18029.0.html

A list of the T800 Service tools...

https://au.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5597237/tiger-800-xrt-from-vin-674842/service-tools

Here's the extract from the forum thread above with the part no's needed.  The most expensive item is T388609.

Camshaft timing plate T3880640  Fowlers Item No. 33
Camshaft timing tensioner  T3880607 Fowlers Item No. 34
Crankshaft timing tensioner  T3880609  Fowlers Item No. 32
Crankshaft timing pin  T3880601  Fowlers Item No. 31



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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2019, 07:49:58 PM »
Just checked and that is over 250 of tools that will be used once unless the timing chain is changed at some point in the future.

I emailed muddy sump earlier today after posting on here, he advised that he always does the camshaft timing as he has the tools but has come across a lot of bikes at 24k miles that should have had it done by the servicing main dealer during the 12k service that haven't had it done as the original bolts on the camshafts still have the blue paint meaning the haven't been replaced. He also advised that older variants of Triumph bikes didn't have adjustable cam shafts and ran fine.

Think I will put it back together as it is. All the timing marks lined up spot on so doesn't appear to be out at all.

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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2019, 08:45:15 AM »
*Originally Posted by dazza76 [+]
I stripped my 2015 xrx down a couple of days ago, all the intlets were in spec but all the exhaust were tight so have had to order a few shims which I'm waiting for so I can put it all back together.

Reading the Triumph maintenance manual it seems that the camshafts have to be re-timed at 12k miles on the 2015 onwards engines, has anyone actually done it as seems to be a good few pounds worth of specialist tools or is it safe to just put back together as was?.

Ta  :020:



I made this adjustment setting camshaft sprockets with replacement of 4 screws.
I found 1 better engine operation, with more torque and power. Consumption has not increased.
I had talked about it on the forum, explaining that my local consessionaire looked surprised when I asked him for a quote for the tools (camshaft lock, chain tensioner, motor lock, 4 screws of gables, joints) hinting that he never practiced it, despite Triumph recommendations !!!
My opinion: This factory distribution setting is made to pass Euro antipollution standards (evolution in 2015), and generates 1 clamping, then the manufacturer recommends correcting this setting after 20000Kms, to fully exploit this engine.
I recommend it.

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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2019, 03:03:56 PM »
Hi
I have just done the shims on my 800R are after - wait for it - 26,000 miles. Yeeha. It was running fine so I just left it until I started getting paranoid.
By the way the airfilter was what you might call black. 14 off ebay.
So Exhaust gaps - .30  .31    .30  .31    .37  .37
     Inlet               .16  .17    .16  .18    .17  .16

Weird that the cam sprocket side should open up and not close up like the rest.
I think its no point in buying a kit for 50 as I actually only had to buy 4 shims ( I mixed and matched 5 existing shims) from Bikeaholics on ebay at 4.99 each.
Buy from Bikeaholics as they seem to be the only seller with shim increments of .025, most are .05 which did not work on some gaps. In fact 3 shims were a Triumph size of 2.48, a strange size. Also checked the gaps 3 times to make sure of the right sizes. Yeah a bit anal but was worth it.
I bought a 32 blade MM feeler gauge off ebay, you'll need to curl the end to fit in the gap.
I also made a crib sheet to make sure I didn't make a mistake. Gap size goes in circles, old shim to new shim sizes underneath.
Hope this helps

T_revs



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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2019, 04:55:29 PM »
That's a handy sheet, thanks for that.
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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2019, 06:39:26 PM »
*Originally Posted by herdygerdy [+]
I too am interested in the 20,000 km s cam timing adjustment info'.

This thread has some useful info', in particular the part no's of the special tools.  A fellow inmate in USA GearHd6 did it and was happy he did and noticed a positive difference when he had finished the job



And I just did the same procedure again at the 24k mile service. The cam chain had slightly stretched again so if you bought the special tools then I'd keep them for the whole time you own the bike.
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Re: Valve Clearance Check and Shims Size
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2019, 07:48:01 PM »
Tiger 800 13 plate  with 20000 miles on it.  Think I could leave cam check till about 24-25 thousand

 


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