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Offline dasf

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Center stand problem
« on: March 28, 2018, 11:32:43 AM »
Hi.
Bought a Tiger 800 XCA 2017 in February. Very good bike but I have one problem. Center stand is very hard to operate.
I am 67 years young, 190 cm/ 100 kg. I have had many bikes since 1965, most of them with center stand.  Never had one needing so much force as the Tiger.
Dont want to discuss the technique ( I know how to after so many years and bikes..) but interested in how much weight you have to put on the center stand to flip over.

When I put my weight on the stand (about 110 kg with riding suit and boots) it does not flip over without lifting.
If I put some extra weight on (bucket of water in my right hand) it will flip over when the total is about 120 kg without lifting.

If you look at this video
/>at 10.25 you see a much smaller man than me put his weight (80 kg???) on the center stand and it flips over without lifting. ????

How much weight do you have to put on your center stand without lifting?
Are there different stands available?

Mine is 350 mm from floor to main mounting bolt.
Past bikes from 1965: Husqvarna Silverpilen 175 cc, Honda 305 Super Hawk, Triumph Bonneville 650, BSA Spitfire 650, Norton 650 SS, Velocette Truxton, Honda 450 Black Bomber, Honda Transalp, Honda Africa Twin, BMW R100RT, BMW R1200 GS, Honda Varadero, Yamaha TDM900, Triumph 800 XCA

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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2018, 11:36:55 AM »
try parking back wheel  on a piece of 3x2 wood then operate stand

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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2018, 11:41:10 AM »
*Originally Posted by lanerider [+]
try parking back wheel  on a piece of 3x2 wood then operate stand

Tried that and it's much easier, but don't want to carry timber around.
Past bikes from 1965: Husqvarna Silverpilen 175 cc, Honda 305 Super Hawk, Triumph Bonneville 650, BSA Spitfire 650, Norton 650 SS, Velocette Truxton, Honda 450 Black Bomber, Honda Transalp, Honda Africa Twin, BMW R100RT, BMW R1200 GS, Honda Varadero, Yamaha TDM900, Triumph 800 XCA

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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2018, 11:45:59 AM »
All you have to do is lift the bike up by the rear sub-frame when your foot is on the stand.
Don't lift it by the pillion grab handles, that makes it harder.
Tiger 800. There's no effing need for it.
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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2018, 11:49:03 AM »
*Originally Posted by Cats [+]
All you have to do is lift the bike up by the rear sub-frame when your foot is on the stand.
Don't lift it by the pillion grab handles, that makes it harder.

Thanks. I know the technique, but I would like to know how much weight you have to put on the stand without lifting.
Past bikes from 1965: Husqvarna Silverpilen 175 cc, Honda 305 Super Hawk, Triumph Bonneville 650, BSA Spitfire 650, Norton 650 SS, Velocette Truxton, Honda 450 Black Bomber, Honda Transalp, Honda Africa Twin, BMW R100RT, BMW R1200 GS, Honda Varadero, Yamaha TDM900, Triumph 800 XCA

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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2018, 11:55:07 AM »
Just you body weight, nothing more than that. No real force required.
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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2018, 11:59:36 AM »
*Originally Posted by Cats [+]
Just you body weight, nothing more than that. No real force required.
If so, than i have to visit my Triump service shop.
Sent them a mail some days ago and the answer was " They all have that problem. You have to live with it".
Past bikes from 1965: Husqvarna Silverpilen 175 cc, Honda 305 Super Hawk, Triumph Bonneville 650, BSA Spitfire 650, Norton 650 SS, Velocette Truxton, Honda 450 Black Bomber, Honda Transalp, Honda Africa Twin, BMW R100RT, BMW R1200 GS, Honda Varadero, Yamaha TDM900, Triumph 800 XCA

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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2018, 12:01:14 PM »
*Originally Posted by dasf [+]
If so, than i have to visit my Triump service shop.
Sent them a mail some days ago and the answer was " They all have that problem. You have to live with it".

If you search the forum you will find a lot of posts complaining about this, including me. So in a way your stealer is probably right.
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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2018, 12:09:54 PM »
I don't think that I've ever had a big bike that I can just put my body weight on the centre stand and it flips up onto it.
The smaller ones yes, 400, 500cc.
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Re: Center stand problem
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2018, 12:14:46 PM »
*Originally Posted by Cats [+]
I don't think that I've ever had a big bike that I can just put my body weight on the centre stand and it flips up onto it.
The smaller ones yes, 400, 500cc.
My old TDM900 2006 does easily. Need only 40-50 kg.
Past bikes from 1965: Husqvarna Silverpilen 175 cc, Honda 305 Super Hawk, Triumph Bonneville 650, BSA Spitfire 650, Norton 650 SS, Velocette Truxton, Honda 450 Black Bomber, Honda Transalp, Honda Africa Twin, BMW R100RT, BMW R1200 GS, Honda Varadero, Yamaha TDM900, Triumph 800 XCA

 


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