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Offline davamb

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SWM SuperDual X and T
« on: December 01, 2018, 03:38:46 AM »
My brother's proposing a Boys' Own Advencha into some of the more remote bits of this wide brown land for his 60th year on this planet. As a result I'm looking at a more off-road capable bike than the XRx, so decided to check out the SWM offerings. Rode over to Pack-a-Ham this morning to the nearest dealer for some test riding. Bad news was that the "T" had been sold last night, so he couldn't let me ride it. I did get on the "X" and this is really why I went there anyway - the Triumph is pretty close to a "T" anyway (there's also another option, which I'll come to in a mo...)

Had a pretty good ride, the shop owner Paul sketched out a map to direct me out the back of Pack and onto some dirt roads then suggested I come back via the Princes so I could see what it's like at speed. Grabbed a copy of my license, chucked me the key and waved me off with a "seeya when you get back". (Heyyyy, no HiViz jacket and no escort. PS - take note!)

Well... I have never felt so confident on dirt as I did this morning. Must be the light weight and 21" front. Could not believe it. The same roads (tracks really) would leave me poootling along in a low gear on the XRx and possibly needing an underpants change on return to base if I attempted the same speeds. This just gobbled it up. Sure, my recent track excursions have improved my confidence levels a lot, but this was a whole new situation. I kept going until I ran out of dirt at a tarmac'd T intersection and then turned around and rode it all the way back. Great engine breaking for hill descents (and there were a couple of steep ones), no squirrely front end over the marble aggregations and no sloppy rear end over the corrugations.

Back on the Princes, I rode through peak-hour Saturday morning traffic and felt quite at ease. Good brakes (switchable ABS), good viz and a decent turn of acceleration to put the traffic behind me at the lights. I cranked it through 270degrees on a roundabout, liked it so much I turned around at the next u-turn and went back and did it again. Sachs rear shock and Fastace (used to be Marzocchi) front. Almost Super Motard-like handling on tarmac. Some, but not a lot of vibes - hell, it's never going to be as smooth as the Tigga, but perfectly acceptable - all the way up to... hmmm... as fast as i dared go with all the speed cams around these days. Bit of fairing wind, I experimented by holding my hand above the screen and found it would be cured by a 5cm 'screen extension. Seat was ok, but I could feel the pillion hump. Might need to have it sculpted to suit my buns I think. Seat's also a little high, I couldn't get both feet fully flat on the ground, but not a real issue for me. It fluffed once or twice off idle - now it might be me or it might be the bike, not sure. It's nothing like the Tigga with it's off-idle torque aplenty, but seemed like it could be a fueling issue to me. Mentioned it to Paul and he said he'd ride it home tonight and see what he thought. Not really concerned, it'd be something you'd soon adapt to and just ride around.

So, the seat and the torque hole were my only real gripes. I didn't like the minuscule info display with digital speedo and tacho and I don't think much of the colour schemes (Black or Red) or styling, but the instrumentation could be improved and the look is certainly acceptable. It is a really capable bike with enough power to get you and your gear to your advencha without exhaustion. I've got prettier bikes if I feel the need to feast my eyeballs.

Now the good bits. $11500 ride away! The standard deal also includes Givi hard panniers and LED driving lights. Phenomenal amount of bike for the money. But wait! Another $1400 buys you the "T" wheel and stand set - 19" front, 17" rear and shorter side and center stands. With road tyres! A further $1400 buys you 2 Arrow pipes to liberate a couple of dB and HP. (Probably wouldn't bother. There might be other pipe options that do much the same for a lot less moolah.) Service intervals are 1,000k and then every 6,000k. That's pretty normal and with only one pot, service charges aren't ridiculous. Most of the time it's new filters and a general check-over.

Ok, so I'm in the market for a suitable bike for brother's Advencha and it will take something pretty damn spesh to beat this. Yeah, I've thought of cross-trading to an XCx, but it's the high CoG and weight that throws me there. And besides, the XRx is close to the perfect bike for touring on our crappy Aus roads, so that's a "keeper".
Cheers,
Dave

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Re: SWM SuperDual X and T
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2018, 04:49:58 AM »
Couldn't help myself. After a second test ride I was hooked.
Bought myself an early chrissy prezzy and have spent the last 2 weekends having a hell of a lot of fun.



No torque issues on this one, seat's rubbish though. A lamby helps somewhat but it really needs to resculped.
Some decent mufflers might help too. Liberate a few kg and dB.
Cheers,
Dave

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Re: SWM SuperDual X and T
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2018, 05:35:00 AM »
I'm glad it works for you. I rode one of the 19" front wheel ones when they first arrived here a couple of years ago. The engine was great but there is no way I could have lived with the rest of the package. From what i can gather they do seem to have been a reliable bike so that probably the most important thing.

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Re: SWM SuperDual X and T
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2018, 10:09:12 PM »
Hey K1, yeah I recall you not being too happy with your ride. That was the earlier Euro3 version which even had a manual choke if memory serves? This is the 2018 E4 spec with switchable ABS so might be a decent improvement over the earlier model. Having said that, the seat is some horror from the Marquis de Sade design school, but I'm sure that can be resculpted into something a little less on the masochistic side. Great motor and gearbox, handling is spot on, but some of the details let it down a bit, guess it's built down to a price. If you're ever down my way drop in and swing a leg over, be interested in your opinion.
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Re: SWM SuperDual X and T
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2018, 08:50:18 PM »
*Originally Posted by davamb [+]
Hey K1, yeah I recall you not being too happy with your ride. That was the earlier Euro3 version which even had a manual choke if memory serves? This is the 2018 E4 spec with switchable ABS so might be a decent improvement over the earlier model.

Yes the one I rode was the manual choke model. That was not really an issue there was just a whole lot of other things I couldn't have lived with the seat being one but one that would be able to be fixed. As I said the motor (and gearbox) were great. I'm sure that they have sorted a lot of things by now but as you said great value for money and they appear to be reliable so just get on it and ride it and enjoy.

 


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