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Offline Tenequip

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Tubeless Tire Preformance
« on: January 06, 2019, 10:33:13 PM »
Planning a trip this summer to Newfoundland & Translabrador Highway. Im wondering if there is a problem with the tubeless tires on the Tiger. Anyone have any bad experiences with the spoked wheels & tubeless tires on the Tigers? :112:

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Re: Tubeless Tire Preformance
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2019, 09:39:20 AM »
*Originally Posted by Tenequip [+]
Planning a trip this summer to Newfoundland & Translabrador Highway. Im wondering if there is a problem with the tubeless tires on the Tiger. Anyone have any bad experiences with the spoked wheels & tubeless tires on the Tigers? :112:

Unless you seal the rims you won't be leaving your drive way.  The rims must be sealed.  There are some threads here on the subject.
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Re: Tubeless Tire Preformance
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2019, 01:50:10 PM »
Do you mean the fact that the tyres are marked as tubeless, though they have tubes in, or are you trying to use them without tubes?
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Re: Tubeless Tire Preformance
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2019, 03:50:22 PM »
The tires  on my 2015 tiger xcx are labeled as tubeless, so I am thinking no tubes. The translaborador highway is about a 1000 mile long and a good bit is dirt haul road and quite isolated. I normally only carry a plug kit for the tubeless tires, but this is the first trip on the tiger with the spoked wheels. Trying to find out if I need to take an extra tube along. :084:

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Re: Tubeless Tire Preformance
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2019, 04:17:16 PM »
If the bike is an XC then it will be running spocked wheels with tubes in them. You can generally tell the difference looking at the tyre valve as a tube will have a valve held in place by a nut, either round or hex depending on the tube. If you have tubed tyres then as far as I know you cannot plug them you have to repair the tube. Unless somebody knows different.

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Re: Tubeless Tire Preformance
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2019, 08:07:38 PM »
*Originally Posted by Tenequip [+]
Planning a trip...Translabrador Highway.
Im wondering if there is a problem with the tubeless tires on the Tiger.
Anyone have any bad experiences with the spoked wheels & tubeless tires on the Tigers?
Well, if you search through the forum, you'll find lots of discussion on that subject.
In summary, Triumph goofed-up royally on the Tiger800 XCs when it comes to tires & wheels.
First off: if they wanted spoked wheels?, they should've built them with the spokes attached to the rim so tubeless tires would work (not spokes thru the rim). B/C of that design error, XCs must be fitted with inner-tubes -- regardless of type of tire: tube, tubeless, bias-ply, or radial.
Secondly: the tire sizes chosen for the Tiger800 XCs are mainly found as radials for the rear and bias-ply for the front (so different species right off the bat...).
Tire folks recco radial tubes be fitted inside radial tires (good luck sourcing those...). And, you'll be hard-pressed to find a bias-ply rear tire b/c of its modern size (to be compatible with the bis-ply-type inner-tube). Altho, the XC does come fitted with a tubeless tire style rim fitted to the rear wheel (which compliments modern tires).
Triumph also built the XC's front wheel with a rim not designed for a tubeless tire (not that you're likely to find many 21" tubeless tires...).
So, bottom line: if you have a flat (for whatever reason)?, you'll need wrenches & tire tools and either an inner-tube patch kit or spare inner-tubes (or, both) and an air-pump/CO2/etc. You'll also need to be adept at wheel removal & install and tire-changing -- which includes breaking the bead of the rear tire (with it's special bead to secure a tubeless tire) -- which often requires a good bead-breaker.
And, practice at home before you leave.
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Re: Tubeless Tire Preformance
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2019, 08:34:48 PM »
Brought the bike with only 800 miles on it, but the owner had replaced the original tires. I will contact the original owner and see if he took care of the problem and at least fill out if it has tubes.
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