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Offline Rtwo

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Germany Route Suggestions
« on: July 26, 2019, 08:19:04 PM »
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good route from NW Austria (Salzburg or maybe Innsbruck) through Germany to Maastricht in 5 or 6 days?
Early September

Not interested in Autobahns or other major roads, sort of fancying following the Rhine but as the Germans are far more responsible when it comes to data etc. they don't allow Street View in Google so I'm struggling to get a feel for it
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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2019, 08:50:57 PM »
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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2019, 07:59:57 AM »
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]

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It doesn't look particularly inspiring, is it a route you've used?

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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2019, 08:52:19 AM »
*Originally Posted by Rtwo [+]
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It doesn't look particularly inspiring, is it a route you've used?

Yes, several times, stopping off at different spots.Usually take a detour to ride the 500, love that road, then camp at Buhl. there's no camp at Baden-baden. I always camp when touring so it's all about finding a decent campsite on edge of a nice small town I can walk into for beers. Those stops are nice places, google them. Nearest camp to Meersburg is at Hagnau a couple of miles stroll along the lake, there lots of hotels. Neiderbronn & Vianden have camps within a mile from town.I have used smaller quieter roads to get through the Tirol but much slower. There is a decent camp at Vols just outside Innsbruck. Plenty of camps in Lux, I've also camped at Diekirch, Larochette & Reisdorf in the Mullerthal valley, they call the area little Switzerland.

If you find a nice route post it up, I like trying different routes but there has to be nice stops for me.

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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2019, 10:18:26 AM »
allright that is a long stretch so here is some advice:
1. Paulhere is using the "Fernpass" frm Fssen to Innsbruck, you need to avoid that pass as it is always packed not enough room to pass so simply a nightmare. Furthermore, the Austrians are forcing people to stay on the Motorway during the holiday season by closing some of the exit so you might end up on the motorway and you cannot get off. You need to check that.
2. I rather suggest to come through Black Forest, avoid Lake Constance as the traffic is really heavy there and cross into Austria via Achenkirch/Achensee

I'll check what I can find on routes I did to the Tridays and post a Garmin gpx to you
« Last Edit: July 27, 2019, 10:48:52 AM by Derchef1962 »
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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2019, 10:33:26 AM »
*Originally Posted by Derchef1962 [+]
allright that is a long stretch so here is some advice:
1. Paulhere is using the "Fernpass" frm Fssen to Innsbruck, you need to avoid that pass as it is always packed not enough room to pass so simply a nightmare. Furthermore, the Austrians are forcing people to stay on the Motorway during the holiday season by closing some of the exit so you might end up on the motorway and you cannot get off. You need to check that.
2. I rather suggest to come through Black Forest, avoid Lake Constance as the traffic and cross into Austria via Achenkirch/Achensee

I'll check what I can find on routes I did to the Tridays and post a Garmin gpx to you

You are going the reverse route there. The OP is coming from Austria, not to it.
Traffic is not usually bad in September, I often camp at Nassereith so hit the Fern pass at 8am, no probs.

Agree on the Black Forest, like I said I usually ride the 500 but it can be very busy. Ok in September, best early morning before the local nutters get on it.

« Last Edit: July 27, 2019, 10:38:18 AM by Paulhere »
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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2019, 10:54:30 AM »
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
You are going the reverse route there. The OP is coming from Austria, not to it.
Traffic is not usually bad in September, I often camp at Nassereith so hit the Fern pass at 8am, no probs.

Agree on the Black Forest, like I said I usually ride the 500 but it can be very busy. Ok in September, best early morning before the local nutters get on it.

you r right, I am going reverse, just found some bits from my trips to Neukirchen/tridays mixed them together and reversed the route. I was down to Lake Constance in June several times, and the traffic was very heavy esp. on weekends..

Don't know how to attach a file to a PM and the file is too big to attach it here....

Route starts at Bramberg/Austra and goes all the way to Sasbachwalden. From there I suggest to cross the Rhine into Alsace and work your way up to Maastricht, I've been to Alsace quite often but how cross Lorraine up to Maastricht I have no personal experience
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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2019, 10:58:38 AM »
maybe this works....https://kurviger.de/?point=48.620338%2C8.121986&point=48.302751%2C8.22089&point=48.023171%2C8.888648&point=48.094068%2C9.057627&point=48.068733%2C9.426417&point=47.951889%2C9.663849&point=47.809067%2C10.180893&point=47.717725%2C10.330083&point=47.517414%2C10.709953&point=47.472652%2C10.795094&point=47.567368%2C10.958862&point=47.560389%2C11.503396&point=47.505419%2C11.707757&point=47.411134%2C11.774392&point=47.308116%2C11.872251&point=47.250331%2C12.143814&point=47.272582%2C12.347388&locale=de&vehicle=motorcycle&weighting=curvature&additional_weighting=&ch.disable=true&use_miles=false&elevation=true&document_title=RTWO.gpx&layer=Esri%20Streets

The Rhine between Baden-Baden and the Rhein-Main Area (that's Frankfurt/Wiesbaden/Mainz) is densely populated, lots of heavy industry etc. So you want to avoid that. The Rhine Valley starts getting nice from Mainz going down the river. As this is the area where I live I know several nice tours there but it is going to be a detour.

The Megameet 2019 will be here in Germany so if you want to see the best spots on the rhine just come to the meet, I'll some nice roads and views for you
« Last Edit: July 27, 2019, 11:06:44 AM by Derchef1962 »
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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2019, 12:09:08 PM »
Not sure if it works for you but have a look at the German Alpine Road - we did this last year en route to Italy and I can recommend it. Lots of places to stop off and look round and some nice scenery as you ride / drive.

There's a few web sites that show it, just google German alpine road.

We stopped off near Bechtesgarden in a small guesthouse run by a very friendly chap, a crowd of Harley riders were en route back from the annual HOG meet in Poland and also stayed there for a couple of nights so he is happy to accept bikers. If you are interested I can try and dig out the name of the place

Not checked a map though to see if this is even remotely in the right direction so may be wasted advice  :001:

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Re: Germany Route Suggestions
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2019, 12:28:32 PM »
Thanks all, I appreciate it  :152:
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