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What is happening there? Very worrying news coming from these two countries. Imposing restrictions on motorcycle usage on weekends in Germany and Austria hunting down people and confiscating bikes producing engine noise over 95dB. Can someone with more information enlighten us? Will this be a nationwide strategy? What areas will be affected?

https://www.infranken.de/lk/kulmbach/sonntags-fahrverbot-motorraeder-streit-um-gesetzesentwurf-art-5006206

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Re: Germany and Austria trying to impose limitations on motorcycle usage
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2020, 09:37:40 AM »
Looks like only a proposal at the moment. Doubt it would pass further.
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Re: Germany and Austria trying to impose limitations on motorcycle usage
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2020, 09:53:35 AM »
Good luck with that proposal they'll be rioting on the streets!!
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Re: Germany and Austria trying to impose limitations on motorcycle usage
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2020, 10:47:39 AM »
I'm sure that once Derchef1962 reads this he will keep his finger on the pulse and update us (if he isn't on it already).  :211:
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Re: Germany and Austria trying to impose limitations on motorcycle usage
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2020, 01:30:19 PM »
 I would be all in favour of a blanket 95db noise limit on all motorcycles but it would have to be enforced on all motorcycles with HD riders no longer being exempt from noise regulations as they appear to be universally at the moment.
The loud pipes save lives argument is b/s and frankly, stupid if that is the best reason people can come up with for excessive noise.

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Re: Germany and Austria trying to impose limitations on motorcycle usage
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2020, 02:02:52 PM »
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The loud pipes save lives argument is b/s and frankly, stupid if that is the best reason people can come up with for excessive noise.

agree - besides, the constant drone of a loud pipe is effing awful on a day-long trip
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Re: Germany and Austria trying to impose limitations on motorcycle usage
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2020, 02:03:27 PM »
That gets my vote!  There is absolutely no need for some motorcycles to be so loud.  It is completely selfish and anti-social to remove baffles or fit deliberately loud aftermarket exhausts and it is about time the existing laws were enforced.

I do take the point though that there are a handful of bikes (listed in the Visordown article) that are compliant with EU Construction & Use law from new but which just exceed this 95dB limit - how can that be right?

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Re: Germany and Austria trying to impose limitations on motorcycle usage
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2020, 02:27:01 PM »
Being fortunate to live is a very rural location the quieter the better, but should be applied across the board including groups of ramblers with their walkie talkies.

I was a trail rider for years and it was always an issue with the dinky winky brigade who would want to ride with us, revving rodneys as well. Eventually packed in group riding as so many dickheads with loud pipes creating yet more alianation with a predominantly non biking poulation.
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Re: Germany and Austria trying to impose limitations on motorcycle usage
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2020, 02:35:12 PM »
Bring it on. No need for excessive noise. It should apply to all vehicles though.
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