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Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« on: September 11, 2020, 09:19:59 PM »
Hi all

First of all, I trust you are all well and that you are keeping safe.

A lot has happened over the last few days with respect to the incidence of Covid-19, the local lockdowns and the new limitations and restrictions introduced by both the English and Welsh Governments (Scotland and N.Ireland too).

From Monday 14th September the Welsh Government will introduce restrictions that include the following:
   It is illegal for groups of more than 6 people to meet indoors
   Up to 30 people can meet outdoors

With this in mind, the logistics for the Megameet has taken yet a further turn. It is not impossible to continue with the Megameet, but aspects of the event will technically be going against the instructions of the Welsh Government, as follows:
   Stopping for morning and afternoon tea breaks - >6 people in a group
   Lunch break - >6 people in a group
   Evenings at the hotel meeting for a social and meal - >6 people in a group

So, we could meet outdoors in a group and comply with the regulations and the law, but we are meeting in October will the Welsh weather favour us having the tea stops, lunch stops and evenings at the hotel outside? I think the odds would be against us.

The beauty and big plus-point of the Tiger Megameet meetings have always been the ride, but just as important is the opportunity to socialise as a group. With the current state of affairs, this will be sorely missed as the meet would need to be limited to the ride only.

Tom, Martin and I have reviewed the situation and also have concerns that as organisers of a technically, illegal event with >6 people, where the logistics of the event will mean at times, meeting indoors; we could potentially be held personally accountable should the police deem the meeting an illegal gathering.

As organisers, we are not prepared to take the risks of being accountable for an illegal gathering. All it would take is a disgruntled hotel guest to complain about a large group of bikers.

Also with the increase in the incidence of Covid-19 your health comes first!

It is therefore getting far too complicated and risky to continue with the Tiger Megameet for 2020 and the meeting will therefore be regrettably cancelled.

With the Tiger Megameet cancelled, you can either cancel your room or travel to the hotel independently

What you need to do now

If you are going to cancel your room:
   Please can you contact Greg Loweth at the hotel by email to cancel your room.
   You must cancel your room or you could be liable for the whole cost.
   The deposits were 20 per person. Annie and I are waiving return of ours, however, please discuss your own deposits with Greg at the hotel

If you are planning to travel to Llandrindod Wells independently
   Please liaise with Greg Loweth to confirm that you will still be attending
   Please note the email from Greg, noted below.

What a bizarre year! Who could have predicted this? Who can predict the next month?? Tom, Martin and I have thoroughly enjoyed planning the ride and cancelling was a difficult decision to make, however we will reflect on the fun we had planning and riding the proposed route. The health and wellbeing of you all and your families are far more important.

All the very best

Dai, Tom and Martin.

Email from Greg Loweth at the hotel:

Hi Dai,
 
Thank you for your time on the telephone this afternoon.
 
A list of our current precautions in place here https://www.metropole.co.uk/your-stay-with-us/
We have plenty of dining capacity for the reasons that we have reduced our accommodation capacity. So any of your colleagues wishing to continue their active reservation and stay with us can dine as a table for 1 or up to a table of 6 as part of a social bubble. The tables would then be socially distanced. These tables would remain the same throughout stay, including breakfast so everyone will know where they are seated.
 
If any members would prefer to cancel their reservations, please contact via me email, as I am not available on the phone as often at the moment.
 
Also, if any members would like to confirm table arrangements on the bedroom reservations, eg table for 1 please or table for 2, joining Jones etc, this would help plan table arrangements in advance.
 
I look forward to hearing from you.
 
Kind regards
Greg
 
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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2020, 10:07:31 PM »
*Originally Posted by dallewed [+]
Tom, Martin and I ... could potentially be held personally accountable should the police deem the meeting an illegal gathering.

Sad as it is to say I fully understand and agree with your assessment and decision on the situation. :003:

Stay safe all and hopefully still get some riding in. :300:
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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2020, 10:12:28 PM »
Thanks Dai
Im 100% behind your decision, which is the responsible one to take.
Well all meet up again soon.
Stay safe everyone.
Cheers
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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2020, 10:25:07 PM »
Your hands are tied, so you're left with a sad but necessary decision. Much as I was looking forward to the Meet and hoping it would happen, in the grand scheme of things it's really not a big deal.

We'll have to keep our collective fingers crossed for Germany '21.

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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2020, 11:22:48 PM »

   Not entirely unexpected,but still bad news. Thanks to Dai and his crew for all the work they have done up to now,hope to meet up in 2022.

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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2020, 07:23:26 PM »
Dai, Tom and Martin,

although your post came somehow to my surprise at this stage, I am sure you made the right decision.
As you can see from some of my posts re. Megameet 2020 I was very unsure whether I could make it. So in a way you solved a problem for me: I do not have to make my decision whether to set sail or not.

I have only a faint idea what this must mean to you regarding the work you all put into this but as you said it is without a doubt not just the ride-outs we are coming to the Megameets it's the meeting of friends, the odd glass at the bar and the fun we have talking to each other. That does not seem to be possible so it's way better to cancel than having a Megameet minus the fun.

As an essential part of a Megameet is not possible and given the current orders by you goverments it will not be possible end of October - and I have all the respect for those orders, that virus and the desease it may cause are vicous b...ards - we cannot have the hMegameet we all expect.

I am hoping that in 2021 when I am running the Megameet we will have some of problems of today under control but honestly I do not know. If I were faced with the situation you have right now I'd pull the plug just as you did.

We had a Zoom video meeting on the Saturday this Megameet was supposed to take place initially. I had the chance to take part and althoug it was not the same thing at least we could stay in contact so I enjoyed it very much. So if someone out there is willing to organise a video meeting on Saturday 24 October I will be more than happy to take part and see your faces - some ugly and some bearable- and hear your voices.

Cheers to everyone and I raise my glass to the organisers.....
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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2020, 08:43:26 PM »
yup its sad. but not only is it NOT 'our' (as in everyone else except Dai, Tom & Martin) but you have made it in a timely fashion. In the sailing world  there is an informal rule that it is the race officers decision that counts, so cancelling the meet is by association the right decision. So we are not going to Llandrindod Wells this Autumn...

a thought could we think about going there next autumn, or perhaps 2022.

I fervently hope that we will be invading the Fatherland in May next year. But I fear we may have to go through another extended will we/wont we be able to go. its useless to speculate this far out, but lets hope we can. Lets PLAN that we can and see what develops

Im also in favour of a video chat if others wish. Although I fear Derchef hasn't really got the idea of video chats
I will be more than happy to take part and see your faces - some ugly and some bearable- and hear your voices.
you are supposed to look at the others images in the video stream whilst NOT listening to yourself.  :138: Bleeding lawyers
There are Im informed some pills available that can get rid (or at least mute) 'the voices'. Clearly if those voices are saying you need another bike then you probably should heed them.
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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2020, 09:00:47 PM »
Well Matt I did not say "hear THE voices" I said "YOUR" voices. Twisting words is my second nature....

Between us two I do hear the voices in my head but my shrink says it's not a problem if I don't argue with them... I follow that advice with a tremendous success.
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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2020, 06:15:07 PM »
Just cancelled our booking now, I think the discussion about breaking any laws, or directives is a bit moot, with some version of a second spike already on its way the health and safety of the participants and especially those with underlying conditions, or who are looking after people still shielding has to be the top priority.

There will be plenty of opportunities for future rides when conditions permit, I was going to say we'll just have to ride it out, but that would be too ironic, even for me  :138:
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Re: Tiger Megameet October 2020 - CANCELLED
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2020, 06:46:44 PM »
*Originally Posted by T800XC [+]
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