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Offline petewhit

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xcx or not
« on: October 17, 2020, 12:39:21 PM »
just had an email from my local dealer and they have a very nice low miles xcx just come up for sale and its well priced, i have been looking for the xrt as i dont do off road mainly touring on tarmac, is there much difference on the road between the two bikes in cornering etc due to bigger front wheel, am i better off with the xrt or is it that small a difference i shouldnt worry,

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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2020, 12:55:41 PM »
An XCX corners as well as you can ride. To be honest I dont really understand the question. Why not take it for a ride and see how it feels. Whether it feels exactly the same as an XR is a different matter but I very much doubt youll find it lacking.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2020, 12:57:44 PM by Aussie Tiger »

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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2020, 01:00:18 PM »
*Originally Posted by Aussie Tiger [+]
An XCX corners as well as you can ride. To be honest I dont really understand the question. Why not take it for a ride and see how it feels. Whether it feels exactly the same as an XR is a different matter but I very much doubt youll find it lacking.
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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2020, 01:06:20 PM »
One big difference (IMO) ...  low maintenance cast wheels, tubeless (mostly easier fix in situ in emergency) tyres on XR wheels v potentially high maintenance spoked wheels (particularly rust prone, not stainless steel spokes), tubed (so PITA to fix in emergency) tyres on XC wheels. :027:
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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2020, 01:15:39 PM »
*Originally Posted by Stevie.P [+]
One big difference (IMO) ...  low maintenance cast wheels, tubeless (mostly easier fix in situ in emergency) tyres on XR wheels v potentially high maintenance spoked wheels (particularly rust prone, not stainless steel spokes), tubed (so PITA to fix in emergency) tyres on XC wheels. :027:

very good point as i had 2 punctures in austria which were a quick fix with the plug kit i carry,

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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2020, 02:01:08 PM »
Yes the wheels have spokes (mine never rusted - depends where you live I guess) and tubes. In 40,000km I never had a puncture or even slow leak. I did however, seal the spokes and actually ran the rear as a tubeless for about a year. Pretty straight forward really. I did the front too but as the rim itself is not a tubeless, in that unlike the rear, it does Not have the second inner ridge, so I couldnt get it to bead up. I put a tube in and ended up doing the same in the rear. That meant if I got a puncture I could still plug the tyre  because the tube would then be leaking into a tubeless tyre but it would also aid inflation. Best of both worlds. Only thing to make sure off was that the tubes valve stem was sealed to the rim. I used silicon automotive adhesive for that.

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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2020, 06:04:17 PM »
*Originally Posted by Stevie.P [+]
One big difference (IMO) ...  low maintenance cast wheels, tubeless (mostly easier fix in situ in emergency) tyres on XR wheels v potentially high maintenance spoked wheels (particularly rust prone, not stainless steel spokes), tubed (so PITA to fix in emergency) tyres on XC wheels. :027:
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When I bought my Roadie, the dealer principal - a known enthusiast - asked me: "Why didn't you buy an XC?" I said: "Inner tubes." To which he replied: "Real dirt bikes have inner tubes."
I have no argument with that -- he's probably correct?
But, I could've added "wire spokes". I don't think I've ever had a bike that the spokes didn't loosen and need adjusting sometime during ownership. In fact, they are a regular maintenance item.
Makes one wonder how that works when sealed spoke nipples are used..?
(seal is broken -- needing re-sealing?)
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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2020, 06:05:50 PM »
What about seat height?

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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2020, 07:32:35 PM »
I have had both bikes cast wheels and now the XC. To be honest I did not want the XC because of the bigger front wheel, I do not go off road so no point really, so I thought. And tyres cost a lot more as there is less choice with the front being 21 on the XC . I had to pay 285 for a set  instead of about 200 and you can not get true sports Turing tyres which is what I would have liked (bt023 Tyres I put on my XR ) but I have had no problems at all with the grip on the tyres I had to buy.  I bought my XC 6 weeks ago as it was in as new condition with only 4000 miles (5300 now) and the price was good for basically a new bike. Anyway as for cornering its down to the rider. I have no problems at all riding it and I ride the twisty roads up here. I dont cane it but I dont hang around ether and I find the bike is a pleasure to ride. As for seat night I only have a 30 inside leg and 5.10 and with the seat on the lowest position I have no problems at all and my bike is not lowered. So at fully standard hight. My only worry is punctures in the middle of no where . When I had the new tyres fitted they must have nicked the inner tube I got 30 miles out from the shop and yes you guessed it a sodding flat. Had to call the wife to get my van and come pick me up , so on side of road for 2 hours waiting. If I had the cast wheels I could have fixed it but sh*t happens .I have only had 3 puncture in the last 10 years and thats what RAC is for. My honest opinion it does not matter which bike you choose both are very good bikes just buy the best tiger 800 you can find for your money and which ever model it is ,is what you get. So bottom line both cracking bikes both ride spot on and would not bother me which one I had in the garage as long as I got a good deal on the bike I was buying. I Was really not sure if I would like the XC as I normally Ride a bit faster than I should. But I do like the bike a lot. And when I am up in the highlands next year on the back single track mountain roads I am sure I will be more than glad of the 21 front wheel.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2020, 08:11:50 PM by ENGLISHBANDIT »
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Re: xcx or not
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2020, 08:56:29 PM »
I must add I have fitted a Nitron rear shock to my bike and it really has transformed the handling
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