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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2020, 09:32:19 AM »
You know might be the case in UK, but I can assure you, in Switzerland and other places I traveled, Italy, France, Spain etc, the age of Triumph buyers is younger.

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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2020, 11:47:57 AM »
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Huh ! I'm calling that out, you need to back that up with some evidence.   :001:

I said buyers, not owners. Triumph is attracting new buyers to the brand with bikes like the Street Triple, Street Twin, Bobber and they are tending to be younger. I think it’s pretty self evident.

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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2020, 12:04:38 PM »
I can't say about the riders ages but last month on my travels around the Lake District, North Pennines, Yorkshire Dales, Kielder Forrest I reckon 50% of all the other bikes I saw were Triumphs :028: , though barely any Tigers, the bulk being from the Classic range and plenty riding two-up. :002:
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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2020, 10:16:31 PM »
I get the feeling that Bonneville and it’s derivatives are the hipster bike of choice.
Which is what brings down the age of ownership. As someone who will complete half a century next year the hipster beard does bring plenty of seasonal work in December
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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2020, 01:15:30 AM »
*Originally Posted by Neogas [+]
I get the feeling that Bonneville and it’s derivatives are the hipster bike of choice.
Which is what brings down the age of ownership. As someone who will complete half a century next year the hipster beard does bring plenty of seasonal work in December

Yep, that too. Triumph’s overt support for the DGR shows that they recognise this.

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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2020, 08:06:18 AM »
We could do with a good influx of younger folk to support the Triumph rallies, they've been getting less & less each year. Maybe the young'ns aren't into the camping side of it.
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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2020, 08:17:04 AM »
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
We could do with a good influx of younger folk to support the Triumph rallies, they've been getting less & less each year. Maybe the young'ns aren't into the camping side of it.

Most hipsters by definition are about looking like something, nowadays younger people are all on Instagram and it's mostly about looks, I'm no hipster and when I started going on adventures (was 32), camping etc, it's even people who asked why I didn't post that, on Instagram or Facebook...
It's not really a way of life for most anymore, never met some that do camp or go on adventures, the hipsters like comfort from what I've seen.

To me then only other brand that also captures the hipsters crowd, are BMW with the nine T, because the XSR from Yamaha are not so much retro looking, some buy them, bit I see far more Bonnies and nine TS.
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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2020, 02:42:22 PM »
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I almost sure we will not see a change in the 900cc engine regarding the T plane crank unless it fails completely in the market which I currently do not see. They will use this engine in different frames and with different wheels but the engine is to stay at least mid-term. I remember talking to mechanice outside the Hinckley factory and he said, that Triumph is "a small bug in the industry compared to BMW and the Japanese". He did not mention HD by the way.....

Therefore, he said Triumph is concentrating on what they are good at and make the maximum out of it. So they stopped doing the Daytona, stoppend doing touring bikes like the Sprint, the Commander had to go etc. It's naked bikes, the classic retros, adventure bikes (with the Rocket being an exception). Bearing that in mind it's simply too expensive to have a diferent engine just for one bike.

Do not get me wrong I love the smooth Tiger 800 which is an almost perfect concept for me. On the other hand the test ride I had on the GT pro was super and if my beloved Tiger 800 dies tomorrow I'd at the dealer the next day to buy a GT Pro.

There doesn't seem much point in this model unless it has something to distinguish it from the 900 GT range, and as the T-plane crank was targetting the off-road market, it would make sense to have a 120 degree crank (like they have in their 765 engines powering Moto2 bikes, and all the Speed and Street Triple bikes). It's not as if they have to produce an entire new engine, just a crank and camshaft. And I can't help but think that Triumph keep an eye on forums and social media, and would have noticed that some potential buyers are put off by the vibration.
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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2020, 03:15:02 PM »
I'm a 64 year old hipster with a Bonneville lol.
 
I also have an '18 plate 800XR. I would be interested in a 900GT or this new 850 model, depending on the grief that my wrists and elbows would have to suffer. I haven't ridden a 900 yet, but will now wait until I can ride them back to back before making any decisions.

(Which also includes sticking with the 800).................

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Re: ‘Tiger 850 Sport’ due next year?
« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2020, 07:48:52 AM »
An 850 Tiger Sport? I don't see it. Doesn't make sense to me since the article says it's the same engine as the 900. What is needed is a significant update to the 1050 Tiger with a bigger, full fat engine with modern electronics to compete with the likes of the XR1000 and Mutley both of which have significant power advantage over anything Triumph currently produces.
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