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Offline steveg

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gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« on: November 21, 2020, 09:16:22 AM »
Hello
I previously owned a 2012 Tiger 800 roadie sold approx 2 years ago
Did approx 50k miles on the Tiger and really enjoyed it
I am now looking at a newer mark 2 2015 Tiger 800
How does the mk2 compare with the mk1 ?
Differences I can see include
Ride by wire so cruise control
No stepper motor ???? my gen 1 stepper was a PITA
Better mpg on mk 2?
Any other differences , do you recon the mk2 Tiger is better than mk1 ?

Any known issues with the mk2 / things to check out for ?

Cheers Steveg
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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 09:51:05 AM »
I didn't like the Gen 1 Tiger 800, only had it as loan bike while mine (Speed Triple) was in for service. I was looking to change to a touring type bike and tried the Tracer 900, a no go, then went and test rode the Gen 2, in my opinion no comparison to the Gen 1, end of story, had it for just over 3 years before changing, no problems at all.

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Offline mcinlb

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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 01:21:18 PM »
Had a 2013 gen 1 Roadie, terrible suspension,  front way too harsh. Fueling none too good, had problems a altitude on the French Alps.

Gen 3 XRX- standard suspension not too bad , but put the Maxton I had on the 1 onto the XRX, superb.
Other than that, ABS and Traction control on the XRX..

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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 08:42:27 PM »
What significant  suspension differences are there between Gen 1 & 2 (Showa front and rear on both I believe)? I cant see much difference in the spec sheets. The suspension can  be improved most definitely  (more noticeable degradation at slow speed)  but I  certainly wouldnt class it as terrible. No throttle/fuelling issues for me  - very smooth but cant say what its like at high altitude.

Offline gordybrock

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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2020, 09:13:42 PM »
My trusty 2012 roadie is perfect in every way...so there  :001:
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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2020, 02:59:34 AM »
Never rode a Gen 1 bike so can't give a comparison. I think all the problems I've had (not many) have been down to the main fuse and ancillaries under the battery.
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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2020, 09:45:08 AM »
`11 Tiger. Each iteration tune was an improvement over the previous to the point that the latest tunes haven't needed to be changed for several years. The only `weak`point was probably the stepper motor IF you happened to be in a dusty environment. Most aren't. Solution was simple.
 In nearly 10 years is only needed recovery once when the front sprocket went walkies. Will I buy a green 2 or even gen 3? I doubt it. Doubt also next bike will be a 900 either. Will there be a next bike? Why when I'm happy with what I have.
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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 11:57:09 AM »
All gen II are ride by wire, have ABS and traction control. XRX and XRT get comfort seats, centre stand, riding modes, including one you can configure, cruise control.. XRT in addition has heated grips, heated seats, fog lights and larger alternator. The engine is supposed to be 16% more fuel efficient (arguable). Brakes and suspension unchanged from Gen I (except for ABS across the range). Gen II also gets 2 (3 on XRT) Merit power sockets.

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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2020, 08:37:38 PM »
I've have my Gen 1 2010 800XC a couple of years and it has never let me down and Love the bike! - I have not ridden any of the newer gens so have no comparison to make.
My UK to Lake Garda trip certainly took my bike to "altitudes" (French, German and Swiss Alps) and never missed a beat!  :152:
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Re: gen 1 v gen 2 tiger 800 roadie
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2020, 05:09:03 PM »
I've got 80k km on my 2012 and only ever done basic mainenance and fork seals.  I do have a 900 GT Pro deposit in for March though so will be upgrading.

 


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