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Offline pemcer

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New 900 or not
« on: May 16, 2021, 04:36:21 PM »
A local dealer(not Triumph) has a fully loaded 2019 Tiger 800 XRT at an attractive price, worth buying against a Tiger 900 or not?

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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2021, 05:30:46 PM »
Lots of things to consider.
Cost saving,
Mileage and condition,
What are you going to use it for and how often.
Too many to list here.
Head or heart 🤔

Good luck.

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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2021, 10:21:04 PM »
I went from a 1200 Explorer and not being able to ride a demonstrator it was a bit of a risk as the Explorer is so good, I have also ridden 800's many times so could do a comparison to a degree. The 900 for me is great and I would recommend it I have had it since 12th March and have over 4500 kms on it. The explorer was very torquey and I was afraid I would miss that but the change of crank angle and firing order has given the 900 plenty of go through the range. There are loads of other improvements, one that used to bug me on the Explorer was how easily the cruise control would get nocked off when hitting a bump in the road and it's never happened on the 900.
I could go on but I won't and maybe others will chip in with their best bits or bits that don't like!
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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2021, 03:15:49 PM »
I've gone from one of the first Explorers (& before that, a 955i); to a XRt 800; and now a 900GT. Loved the Explorer engine (& shaft) but not the feeling of top-heaviness). Had many fault-free adventures with the 800, over 4 years and 16k miles. I spent a year anguishing over the decision to trade up to the 900. Nearly didn't because of the inflated rarity price & delay in acquiring a new one. A private sale cropped up and the deal was done.

Only done 1k miles so far. 900 suspension feels a lot smoother (& more adjustable). A touch gruntier at low revs. Doesn't stall so easily as the 800. Similar performance from brakes & tyres. Wife claims to like the pilliion of all 3 but the 900 the best - I suspect having her own control of the heated seat is playing a part.

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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2021, 04:18:38 PM »
I owned and put many a mile on my Tiger 800 and now have about 2500 miles on my new 21 Tiger 900.  They are quite a bit different so if possible be sure to ride both before deciding to buy.  The main fault I had with my 800 was engine heat, there is none of that on the 900.  Plus the powerband of the 900 is a bit different than the 800 and IMHO better.  So go demo ride both and youll arrive at a decision that suits your riding style.  Either way you cant go wrong.   :152:
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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2021, 09:28:06 PM »
My dealer made me test the 900, it's nice but something I can't put my finger on it is missing,
it does not have the same feeling as the 800 for me, but I should mention going for a 15T
front sprocket and honestly that's how it should have been right from the factory, much more
get go while still revving quite enough.

A thing worth noting, the 900 has less snappy 5th and 6th gear, if you do lots of highway ride
that might change a lot. 800 5th 1.136, 6th 1.043 and 900 5th 1.107, 6th 0.966.
Boy with my sprocket change is the 800 a highway rocket and until now I can't say the mileage
got any worse.

So little details to keep in mind but test these 2 for sure !

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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2021, 11:07:18 PM »
I agree with Djairouks...if off road riding is your thing, then the Tiger 800 is your bike.  But over here on this side of the "pond" distances can be "stretched out" quite a long ways with a lot of riding well above 115 KPH for long stretches of time.  Then, that higher 6th gear on the 900 sure is welcome.   :300:
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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2021, 06:45:37 AM »
*Originally Posted by coach [+]
I agree with Djairouks...if off road riding is your thing, then the Tiger 800 is your bike.  But over here on this side of the "pond" distances can be "stretched out" quite a long ways with a lot of riding well above 115 KPH for long stretches of time.  Then, that higher 6th gear on the 900 sure is welcome.   :300:

Um weird, I would tend to say exactly the opposite, the 900 felt less comfy to me on the highway even without the sprocket change the 800 overtakes easily.
Since my Africa twin off-roading trials, I really would not do that on a 200+ kg bike 800 or 900 pretty much the same.

My point was if you think the grunt of the 900 is that nice, well you get more with a sprocket change on the 800 in my opinion, as the 2 last gears are taller, my sprocket increased the acceleration of 7%, while the 900 has the 10% increase and that's definitely cheaper to change a sprocket  :156:.
If you're after the looks sound or brand new gizmos then that's another story and the 900 is good.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2021, 06:52:55 AM by Djairouks »

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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2021, 09:44:39 AM »
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Great bike. 800 never tempted me away from my trusty Explorer but the 900 RP certainly did. Much better bike all round and the suspension and brakes are especially note worthy. Engine has real character too.

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Re: New 900 or not
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2021, 08:52:44 AM »
I liked the 800 a lot but sold it in the end as I was getting fed up with dragging the footpegs on twisty roads, I also wanted more torque. I have had a couple of bikes since but if the 900 addresses those two things, I could be tempted back into the fold.

 


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