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Offline peterjfox69

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Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« on: May 24, 2021, 09:11:47 PM »
I am just picked up a 2020 Tiger 800 XCA which is great apart from a really annoying whine coming from the gearbox at speed whether the bike is loaded up with luggage, a pillion or with nothing.  Chain play is 30mm so all cool there.
Video attached, any ideas as it wasn't't on the other tow bikes.
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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2021, 10:15:36 PM »
I assume the video was taken on the road? If so, have you tried to run it up through the gears with the bike on the centre stand to see whether you can better hear which side of the bike and exactly where the noise is coming from? The first thing I would check is that the engine sprocket is still firmly attached and isn't loose.  If you bought the bike from a dealer with some sort of guarantee, I would do is take it back to them to investigate the problem?
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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2021, 11:13:53 PM »
*Originally Posted by peterjfox69 [+]
I am just picked up a 2020 Tiger 800 XCA ...

Preferably with it having had the required services,  I'd be taking it to the Triumph dealer. Even if it's a 2020 registered September 2019 it's still surely within and covered by the 2yr unlimited mileage warranty.

It does sound strange but may not be gearbox as noise travel and perceived location can easily be mistaken.  :027:
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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2021, 05:32:23 AM »
*Originally Posted by awjdthumper [+]
I assume the video was taken on the road? If so, have you tried to run it up through the gears with the bike on the centre stand to see whether you can better hear which side of the bike and exactly where the noise is coming from? The first thing I would check is that the engine sprocket is still firmly attached and isn't loose.  If you bought the bike from a dealer with some sort of guarantee, I would do is take it back to them to investigate the problem?

I've checked the Front Sprocket etc, all ok, its got a two year Triumph Warranty.  Just wondered if anyone else has noticed it.

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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2021, 06:43:12 AM »
My 2017 800 XCA does not make any strange sounds. Worst case scenario is that the noise is emanating from a failing bearing which would require a complete strip down of the engine to sort out. However, best to rule out all the obvious things first including the chain rubbing against something. As said, putting the bike on its centre stand to run it up through the gears might enable you to better locate where the noise is coming from although you might need another person to help?
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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2021, 04:44:37 PM »
Its sounds like the ball bearings racing with no lubricant, I would get it checked.
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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2021, 06:03:16 AM »
*Originally Posted by awjdthumper [+]
My 2017 800 XCA does not make any strange sounds. Worst case scenario is that the noise is emanating from a failing bearing which would require a complete strip down of the engine to sort out. However, best to rule out all the obvious things first including the chain rubbing against something. As said, putting the bike on its centre stand to run it up through the gears might enable you to better locate where the noise is coming from although you might need another person to help?

I've returned home and put the bike on the centre stand.  No noise, it only does it when moving?

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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2021, 06:54:32 AM »
This is a very tricky problem to diagnose if it doesn't make the noise when run up on the centre stand. Unfortunately, it does seem to point to a bearing problem when the engine is under load. However, it may not be coming from the gearbox which would take a full engine strip to sort out but could be coming from the engine itself, for example, the clutch, generator or starter clutch which would be much easier to sort. Best to take it back to the dealer for his opinion.
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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2021, 06:57:13 AM »
*Originally Posted by awjdthumper [+]
This is a very tricky problem to diagnose if it doesn't make the noise when run up on the centre stand. Unfortunately, it does seem to point to a bearing problem when the engine is under load. However, it may not be coming from the gearbox which would take a full engine strip to sort out but could be coming from the engine itself, for example, the clutch, generator or starter clutch which would be much easier to sort. Best to take it back to the dealer for his opinion.

Exactly what I'm doing.  It's brand new!

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Re: Engine/Gearbox Whine 2020 Gen 3 Tiger 800 XCA
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2021, 08:15:57 AM »
If it turns out to be a gearbox issue, I would have though a replacement engine might be the only cost effective solution. Please let us know how you get on with the dealer or Triumph and hope you get it sorted without too much grief!
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