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Offline craggsy

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Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« on: September 09, 2021, 05:26:46 PM »
Hi, Im halfway to the mega meet in Wales and have the following problem with Tiger.
Initially it was that it would cut out in neutral when the sidestand when down.
This has progressed to difficulty selecting gears, mainly first and second and gear indicator not correct.
It now jumps a gear again between 1st and 2nd.
It also finds false neutral, this was between 3rd and 4th. Never done before
The selection is sloppy, ie loose.
Once in a gear properly it runs ok.

My dilemma..
Do I continue for 3 hrs to Wales and hope it gets no worse
Do I ride home and cancel event and hotel, which we a looking forward to
Do i call RAC so bike does not get any worse to carry it home.

I suppose is anyone has had this kind of problem it would be a great help for an opinion please
Need to decide overnight.
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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2021, 06:15:27 PM »
I'd probably take a read on here about gear selector spring problems and see if the symptoms are similar to yours, then see if there's anything you can do in time for the Meet.

Hope you get it sorted ASAP.
  
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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2021, 06:46:13 PM »
I would be calling aa to take it home or ride it home carefully. If somethings floating inside you dont want it jamming somewhere nasty and causing a mishap or worse.

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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2021, 07:52:17 PM »
Unfortunately, gearbox problems don't usually mend themselves and will probably only get worse. As said, it's best no to risk riding it too far until it is sorted.
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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2021, 11:00:48 PM »
Sure sounds like the broken return-to-center shifter spring and/or the arm with it.


You could, a) leave the bike there, hitch a ride to the meet, b) hitch a ride back to the bike when over, c) get a tow/trailer and take it home or dealer.

You could, with difficulty, fumble with the shifter arm to change gears and ride, but not the best option!
« Last Edit: September 09, 2021, 11:03:01 PM by chuckxc »
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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2021, 11:33:54 PM »
As others have said. Gearbox problems do not self cure and can potentially result in catastrophic failure. RAC and truck for me, you pay for it so use it when you need to.

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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2021, 07:36:21 AM »
Spend a good part of night reading up on gearbox selector failures and your wise words.
Some very small parts for such a big constant use job.
Only 150 miles from home.
Its going to be an interesting day
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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2021, 10:13:49 PM »
This may belong in Mechanical Advise, so happy if Mods want to move ithe post, but I didnt want to start another thread.

The problem I had was the gear selector spring and has been replaced by a Triumph Dealer, but the clutch now has a judder, on takeoff mainly.
Apparently, this is due to clutch plates been put back in different positions (not the same fit/ warped). Ive asked if they could look at this again, but cant see how the original order, position can now be found.
I thought it would be basic procedure to put it together in the same order/location they came out?

They have reordered things and now say it is much better. Im not sure if much better is good enough.
What do you think?

also, for interest, when it broke  I called the RAC at 9am. by 18.30pm I had still not been collected. I gave up and called a mate with a van who drove 3 hours ther and back and got me home. RAC total failure and a very strong complaint.

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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2021, 12:13:09 AM »
Normally when you take a clutch basket off you keep all the plates in the same order but they do get mixed up occasionally when things go wrong. If the dealer cant fix the shudder I would be talking politely to them about new clutch plates supplied and installed by them.

Sorry to hear about the RAC experience and that is definitely worth a compliant. If there is an unusual delay here they do at least get back to you by phone and keep you informed.

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Re: Gearbox problem on wayto mega meet, advice sought
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2021, 01:31:30 AM »
The anti-judder spring is important to get right. They probably didn't. Ask them, and then ask if it's worn. I'd be asking for a new Bartlett's clutch
Here's a quote from a Revzilla article on the Tiger....

"The main note I had for next time was to make sure the anti-judder spring, which sits behind the clutch plates, gets reinstalled correctly.".


"https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/tiger-tales-modifying-an-adventure-bike-for-off-road-abuse


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