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    Transmission troubles
    on: Nov 19, 2021, 11.31 pm
    Nov 19, 2021, 11.31 pm
    I have a 2014 Roadie.  Today I started having a issue with the transmission.  The problem is, when I try to put it in neutral, over half the time the TFT says n but the neutral light does not come on.  And when I see this combination,  n and no neutral light, sometimes it's in neutral and sometimes it's in gear.  It actually takes me several tries to get the display to say both n and have the light on at the same time.  Anyone know what the problem is, and how to fix it?
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    Re: Transmission troubles
    Reply #1 on: Nov 20, 2021, 12.03 am
    Nov 20, 2021, 12.03 am
    Triumph gearboxes have a very poor reputation unfortunately. There have been lots of different problems with them over the years.
    You could start with this thread for the issue I had

    https://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,26931.0.html

    But if you search the forum for the word gearbox you will find hundreds of threads most of which are about problems owners have had.

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    Re: Transmission troubles
    Reply #2 on: Nov 20, 2021, 02.29 am
    Nov 20, 2021, 02.29 am
    It could very well be the shifter index pawls as K1W1 suggested.
    A way to tell, and eliminate the possible of a faulty shift indicator sensor/connector would be to put the bike on the center stand with the  rear wheel free to turn by hand. Then with the engine off, shift by hand on the selector while turning the wheel and see if you can easily shift in and out of neutral - don't bother looking at the light or N display, just use your feel. You should get consistent 'click' changes and a distinctive feel while turning the wheel to engage/disengage. If you find it hit or miss or difficult to do consistently, then suspect a mechanical wear in the shifter mechanism.
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    Re: Transmission troubles
    Reply #3 on: Nov 20, 2021, 06.07 pm
    Nov 20, 2021, 06.07 pm
    I agree with checking how the bike actually shifts -- but, wouldn't the fact that sometimes both the N and the neutral light don't both illuminate seem to indicate an electrical issue?
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    Re: Transmission troubles
    Reply #4 on: Nov 20, 2021, 07.59 pm
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    The gear position sensor was also changed from a 3 to 4 wire device, as I recall. Not sure if just as newer design needed for more modern bikes, or issues with 3 wire.??
    https://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php?topic=12616.0

    If the bike shifts mechanically. Its worth a look.

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    Re: Transmission troubles
    Reply #5 on: Nov 20, 2021, 08.14 pm
    Nov 20, 2021, 08.14 pm
    Thanks for the replies.  I went out for ride today.  Still have the same problem, getting it into neutral.  I'll talk to my local Triumph mechanic later this week.
    Last Edit: Nov 20, 2021, 08.19 pm by xsrider

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    Re: Transmission troubles
    Reply #6 on: Nov 27, 2021, 07.11 pm
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    This link describes some of the symptoms I have with my transmission.  Looks like I need the gear pin and spring replaced.

    https://www.triumphrat.net/threads/proper-way-to-diagnose-a-gear-shift-problem-800-xc.961044/