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    Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    on: May 11, 2022, 06.35 pm
    May 11, 2022, 06.35 pm
    My 2018 Tiger has reasonable fuelling (for me), I guess it could be a bit irritating if I did a lot of town riding, but I don’t and it’s just fine on the open road.  So, aside from smoothing things out Is there anything to gain, like more power  :028: from a re-map? And is it easily done?
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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #1 on: May 11, 2022, 06.48 pm
    May 11, 2022, 06.48 pm
    Essentially, Triumph has developed a map for the Tiger 800 that it believes is a good compromise between the amount of power and torque generated and the rate at which it consumes fuel - and, of course, it has to meet increasing emission standards. In principle, by re-mapping, you can change the trade-off and get more power and torque at the expense of lower mpg - and increase the level of harmful emissions.  Obviously, it can be more subtle than that but that is the basic trade-off involved.
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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #2 on: May 12, 2022, 09.31 am
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    Can the ECU be accessed for map change on a gen3 model?
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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #3 on: May 12, 2022, 12.56 pm
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    Re  remapping, I'm thinking of doing it after my warranty is out, been looking at this site -
    https://dnktuneworks.com/product/triumph-tiger/
    Some good customer reviews on the Trident remap, I would expect the same sort of result on a Tiger.

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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #4 on: May 12, 2022, 05.26 pm
    May 12, 2022, 05.26 pm
    *Originally Posted by awjdthumper [+]
    Essentially, Triumph has developed a map for the Tiger 800 that it believes is a good compromise between the amount of power and torque generated and the rate at which it consumes fuel - and, of course, it has to meet increasing emission standards. In principle, by re-mapping, you can change the trade-off and get more power and torque at the expense of lower mpg - and increase the level of harmful emissions.  Obviously, it can be more subtle than that but that is the basic trade-off involved.

    Modern bikes are tuned to pass a test that is stated on the log book. It's not to do with balancing anything. My 800 ran much better after the remap because you don't get that stumble where the engine is forced to pass that test.

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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #5 on: May 16, 2022, 12.24 pm
    May 16, 2022, 12.24 pm
    I talked myself into a remap on a GS 1200 twin cam and made a massive difference, pick-up was smoother, fuelling much better (though it wasn’t too bad as standard) and a significant increase in power which I could feel as well as see on the dyno charts.  And it was even better with a set of decat headers.  The end can and air filter were kept standard.

    From what I’ve read so far I could expect better fuelling but not any significant power increase?  And there isn’t anything to gain, except sound and weight loss from changing the can, and the standard air filter is fine for general road use- which is not the case on many Triumph twins, from what I’ve read.
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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #6 on: Jun 04, 2022, 09.14 pm
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    *Originally Posted by mcinlb [+]
    Re  remapping, I'm thinking of doing it after my warranty is out, been looking at this site -
    https://dnktuneworks.com/product/triumph-tiger/
    Some good customer reviews on the Trident remap, I would expect the same sort of result on a Tiger.


    I will be particularly interested in the follow-up. . .

    Indeed, I myself modified my mapping, obtaining more Watts because you should know that our T800 equipped with RBW, when the handle is at 100%, the flaps are at 80% !!
    I am thinking of a voluntary limitation from the manufacturer to make this 95hp model accessible to certain markets or continents. . .
    So already a power gain, without counting on the air/petrol ratio, much more favorable to anti-pollution standards, than to the rational operation of an engine.

    Interesting subject, to follow and develop.

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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #7 on: Jun 05, 2022, 01.04 am
    Jun 05, 2022, 01.04 am
    *Originally Posted by SOHUTAA [+]

    I will be particularly interested in the follow-up. . .

    Indeed, I myself modified my mapping, obtaining more Watts because you should know that our T800 equipped with RBW, when the handle is at 100%, the flaps are at 80% !!
    I am thinking of a voluntary limitation from the manufacturer to make this 95hp model accessible to certain markets or continents. . .
    So already a power gain, without counting on the air/petrol ratio, much more favorable to anti-pollution standards, than to the rational operation of an engine.

    Interesting subject, to follow and develop.

    I’m curious. Did you use a dyno before and after the map change so you have accurate real measurements or is the “power gain” simply something that your mind is telling you about?

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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #8 on: Jun 05, 2022, 03.00 am
    Jun 05, 2022, 03.00 am
    'Better' is the enemy of 'good enough'.
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    Re: Re-mapping - what’s to gain?
    Reply #9 on: Jun 05, 2022, 07.47 pm
    Jun 05, 2022, 07.47 pm
    *Originally Posted by K1W1 [+]
    I’m curious. Did you use a dyno before and after the map change so you have accurate real measurements or is the “power gain” simply something that your mind is telling you about?


    Absolutely not.
    On the other hand, when driving with friends in a Gs 1200 Lc of 125hp, I no longer get left behind as before at each exit from a curve.

     


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