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Offline arrybash

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Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« on: February 26, 2013, 10:56:15 PM »
Does anybody have any tips to remove the lock barrel from the top box.  Looks like it needs to have the end tumbler moved as well as the lock tumblers.  I assume there is a master key, but I don't have access to one.

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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 10:59:58 PM »
Contact a few dealers. I have been hearing that some dealers are starting to acquire a tool to remove the locks. Other than that you used to have to destroy either the box or the lock for removal.
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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 11:21:50 PM »
Or you can get hold of a competant vehicle locksmith and they will do it without damage,they are the same cylinders as used in caravans and motorhomes.

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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 10:02:24 AM »
Quite difficult to do.  The last pin locks in place and there is no key to release it.  Some just drill out old lock.  Some try to drill a precision hole into the last pin, lengthways.
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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 03:13:34 PM »
I have tried to split the inner shell from the outer shell by removing all the torx screws thinking I would get access to the barrell.  However I failed to split the shells.

It may have split but I didn't want to damage anything as its a new top box.

I may get another key cut and try to use it as a master.  Past experience has indicated that if you can shove the key further (by filing it away) in it may release the locking tumblers.

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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 03:22:55 PM »
Try dealer or locksmith.
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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2013, 04:52:28 PM »
Given Rozzer's in depth knowledge, Id be sore tempted to go down his route.....

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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 11:11:10 AM »
Took my barrel and keys to a good vehicle locksmith.  The key already bottoms out past the locking tumbler hence its not possible to make any adjustments to a blank key.  Failed to get a solution at the locksmiths except to get a spare key cut.

Had another go at splitting the top box carcases.  Got all the torx screws out, however the pop rivets for the hinge are also through the two caracases, hence its not possible to split the carcases without drilling out the hinge pop rivets.  I don't want to butcher a brand new top box so I stopped at this point.  It is possible to prise apart the cascases above the lock by about 10mm, but it does not appear to be possible to actually release the lock.

Looks like the only way to remove the lock is to carefully drill out the internals to release all the tumblers, but then I would be a lock short for my set of 3.

In summary failed.
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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 06:14:44 PM »
*Originally Posted by arrybash [+]
Looks like the only way to remove the lock is to carefully drill out the internals to release all the tumblers, but then I would be a lock short for my set of 3.

That is the first step.  Next step is to buy a new set of locks (pretty cheap) from your dealer and have them re-pinned to fit your existing key (or you can do it - pretty simple job), and put the new lock into the case.   :028:

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Re: Lock Barrel Removal from Top Box
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 09:10:21 PM »
The locks do not look as if they can be repinned to suit to ignition key, they look sealed units.  But maybe you get locks to the key number.
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