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Title: xca rusting spokes
Post by: Glenandem on Nov 21, 2021, 08.27 am
hi guys just a lovely clean low mileage 2015 xca but having a browse round it last night I noticed a few spokes are just starting to get a bit of surface rust on, has anyone had this and what's best way to deal with it!
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: Stevie.P on Nov 21, 2021, 10.22 am
Back in 2015 when I had decided to move to the Tiger (from a Street Triple) it was the sight of rusty XC spokes on a number of Xc Tigers I'd seen that was a major put off for me as I have no garage or easy maintenance facilities so had no inclination to spend hours per month, or whatever it takes, constantly cleaning and polishing spokes. Triumph are cheapskates in not fitting stainless steel spokes. My 1979 Bonnie has had steel rims and spokes since 1994 and they still look pristine.
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: Glenandem on Nov 21, 2021, 12.55 pm
yeah Ive never owned a triumph before but looking around it at this bike although its generally a low mileage mint bike and the previous owner really did look after it I can see little bits that probably won't last the length of time due to the triumph build quality but I'll do my best to keep it mint!!
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: Stevie.P on Nov 21, 2021, 02.09 pm
*Originally Posted by Glenandem [+]
.... I can see little bits that probably won't last the length of time due to the triumph build quality but I'll do my best to keep it mint!!

I wouldn't say Triumph have a build quality issue, well no more than any other manufacturer. The spokes on the Xc can be an issue, without lots of TLC, but my XRt roadie has spent over 6yrs parked outside uncovered and rarely cleaned and my only obvious sign of deterioration (from a very early stage) is the badly rusted mirror arms and the paint on the OEM fog light brackets is now starting to bubble. :002:

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/01.-Mirror-corrosion.jpg)

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/02.-Mirror-Corrosion.jpg)
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: Glenandem on Nov 21, 2021, 02.15 pm
yikes, at least its all bolt off bolt on parts to replace, could be worse im seeing a lot of Africa's with rusting flaking frames about!!!
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: awjdthumper on Nov 21, 2021, 04.38 pm
*Originally Posted by Glenandem [+]
yeah Ive never owned a triumph before but looking around it at this bike although its generally a low mileage mint bike and the previous owner really did look after it I can see little bits that probably won't last the length of time due to the triumph build quality but I'll do my best to keep it mint!!
My 2017 XCA was mint when I bought it 18 months ago except for the chrome plated spokes which had started to deteriorate. Fortunately, they probably won't get any worse with me since I've got a complete aversion to riding in wet conditions but, if they do, I'll just replace with SS spokes. However, compared with my previous BMW which used plated steel nipples which rusted away really badly, the Triumph isn't too bad :006:
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: gordybrock on Nov 21, 2021, 04.47 pm
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*Originally Posted by Glenandem [+]
hi guys just a lovely clean low mileage 2015 xca but having a browse round it last night I noticed a few spokes are just starting to get a bit of surface rust on, has anyone had this and what's best way to deal with it!
If a bit of surface rust on the spokes of a seven year old bike bothers you so much my advice is buy a tube of Solvol chrome cleaner or buy a bike with alloy wheels  :001:
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: awjdthumper on Nov 21, 2021, 06.12 pm
I've no idea why Triumph didn't fit SS spokes - in my experience, chrome plating steel spokes is a pretty poor choice and usually doesn't last that long. As said, mine lasted no more than 3 years before being deeply pitted in places despite the previous owner looking after the bike very carefully. I'm not so much worried about the cosmetics but the fact that further rusting will weaken the spokes which could fail eventually.
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: Paulhere on Nov 23, 2021, 09.40 am
*Originally Posted by awjdthumper [+]
I've no idea why Triumph didn't fit SS spokes - in my experience, chrome plating steel spokes is a pretty poor choice and usually doesn't last that long. As said, mine lasted no more than 3 years before being deeply pitted in places despite the previous owner looking after the bike very carefully. I'm not so much worried about the cosmetics but the fact that further rusting will weaken the spokes which could fail eventually.

Triumph did fit st/st spokes some years ago, they had a lot of warranty claims 'cos they were snapping. So, you got rusty spokes, some were rusting within 3 months, Honda 1000cc AT's did same.
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: awjdthumper on Nov 24, 2021, 08.04 am
I think for normal road use, SS spokes are fine but, for hard off-road use, it wouldn't surprise me if there would be occasional failures. Galvanised spokes are the better alternative in terms of corrosion resistance but I guess Triumph wanted them to be shiny and so chose less than ideal chrome plated steel :009:
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: Paulhere on Nov 24, 2021, 09.25 am
Triumph have never recalled the Bonnies for breaking st/st spokes or the Tigers/Tex's for rusting spokes, two of the boys in our club with Tex's had the rusty spokes, one got a replacement, the other got refused. Honda replaced all their rusty ones under warranty.

The breaking st/st spokes was a pre 2008 issue, 2 chums bought 06's, one had several broken spokes, the other had none, neither bike was ever used off-road.

https://www.triumphrat.net/threads/pre-2005-spoked-wheels.215981/

Google it, loads of info' on the various Triumph forums.
Title: Re: xca rusting spokes
Post by: Georgeinabz on Nov 26, 2021, 07.31 pm
*Originally Posted by awjdthumper [+]
I think for normal road use, SS spokes are fine but, for hard off-road use, it wouldn't surprise me if there would be occasional failures. Galvanised spokes are the better alternative in terms of corrosion resistance but I guess Triumph wanted them to be shiny and so chose less than ideal chrome plated steel :009:

Correct , I turn Stainless steel and generally itís tensile strength & yield strength is way down compared to high tensile steel. Now I say generally because you can get higher grade ss but cost dramatically increases, itís commonly used in marine applications. This way with steel triumph are able to balance cost / unsprung weight and durability,and throw the onus on the consumer to care for their spokes.