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Title: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: GIDEON on May 17, 2011, 09:48:57 AM
Just wondering Those that have it  :017:
And if your some experience in engineering drawings  :017:
Ok you might start getting to what is following  :009:
Then make us a nice drawing of both sides en sizes etc. for 30mm lift.
Seeing that I do have skilled Fitters and Turners and a Engineering that Loves bikes.
I can with out even wondering let them be made.
 :001:
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on May 22, 2011, 12:18:52 PM
Gideon did you ever get your drawings?  I couldn't do 30MM but was able to make them for 20MM.  :028:
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: GIDEON on May 22, 2011, 06:36:24 PM
No didn't get drawings. Maybe there scared I'll give bag reviews  :004:
Yes the 20mm I checked is a better choice, looking at the Super Tenere its about 20 and the 1200GS Adventure and the KTM.
Nice if you have people you can pester at night  :008:

You can mail me your if you have something I can work on will not have the bike for a while.
 
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on May 22, 2011, 08:54:40 PM
I will get you a drawing of what I did this evening when I get home and some pics of how it looks with them on.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: firecat0_0 on May 30, 2011, 07:17:37 PM
any updates? I would like to make one, any info would be much appreciated!
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: GIDEON on May 30, 2011, 07:45:26 PM
Email me and ill send what master mind SMIFFXC sended me i will message the mail addy
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: firecat0_0 on May 30, 2011, 08:48:45 PM
have done, cheers
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on May 31, 2011, 12:07:17 AM
*Originally Posted by firecat0_0 [+]
any updates? I would like to make one, any info would be much appreciated!
Sorry, I tried posting pic's once but didn't have much luck.  My lovely wife posted them for me on another thread but then you couldn't enlarge them.  I just haven't had time to figure it out.  Summer finally came and that same lovely wife has kept me quite busy...   :087:
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: KildareMan on May 31, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
Can you even raise the fender by 20mm.  Looking at mine, 800 not xc, I would say there's no room to raise the fender at all, unless you replace the brake lines with straight runs from the master cylinder and do away with the loop over the fender.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on May 31, 2011, 07:23:38 PM
*Originally Posted by KildareMan [+]
Can you even raise the fender by 20mm.  Looking at mine, 800 not xc, I would say there's no room to raise the fender at all, unless you replace the brake lines with straight runs from the master cylinder and do away with the loop over the fender.
Yes, on my XC w/ABS I was able to raise it 20MM safely without stress on the brake lines.  Anything more on my bike may have caused problems.  I had a dealer in Reno, Nevada claim they raised one 40MM without running new brake lines.  There was no way I could go that much on my bike.  The front fender setup on the roadie is different so I don't know about those.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: GIDEON on June 01, 2011, 07:10:25 PM
Ill send to you both the files as soon as the workplace server gets a wake-up if it still of tomorow ill safe it and bring them home and send them
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: firecat0_0 on June 02, 2011, 10:41:31 PM
Thanks, that would be great! cheers
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on June 03, 2011, 08:22:52 AM
Just checking to see if I can get this picture to work.   :001:
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on June 03, 2011, 08:26:57 AM
Well look at that, it worked!   :047:  Amazing what you can do at 3:25 AM!  The one thing I would say is to make sure you round off the small brackets good so they will fit into the bracket on the bike.  If you try to square them off they won't fit.  Now I will try to post some pic's of them on the bike.....
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on June 03, 2011, 08:54:28 AM
You will need to drill a hole between the two existing holes.  I left the reflector on to cover the rear brackets.  I used all existing hardware so I only had to buy 4 S/S screws, nylon lock nuts and washers.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on June 03, 2011, 08:57:10 AM
Here are pic's of the fender height above the stock tire.  I have the rear fender extender on as well.  Sorry for the poor quality of the pic's, taken from my phone.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: GIDEON on June 03, 2011, 08:59:50 AM
Go SMIFFXC we believe in you and it worked  :152: :047:
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on June 03, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
*Originally Posted by GIDEON [+]
Go SMIFFXC we believe in you and it worked  :152: :047:
Thanks for the vote of confidence!   :001:  Also, I should mention that the screws I used were about 12MM long.  That worked out well as they don't stick out the back of the nut much at all.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: firecat0_0 on June 08, 2011, 07:51:32 AM
*Originally Posted by SMIFFXC [+]
Just checking to see if I can get this picture to work.   :001:

 :062:Thank you SMIFFXC

All the best
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: ws888 on June 08, 2011, 08:59:10 AM
Thanks SMIFFXC, I knew it couldn't be too difficult! When I finally get my bike I will definitely do it. 
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on June 08, 2011, 10:28:58 AM
Here are a coule of pic's to show what raising it 20MM gets with a knobby tire.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: GIDEON on June 08, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
Thats just awesome
the Tiger look the part with knobby's
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: SMIFFXC on June 09, 2011, 12:42:30 AM
*Originally Posted by GIDEON [+]
Thats just awesome
the Tiger look the part with knobby's
Yes, I have to agree.  You do pay for it in the handling dept on pavement.  I took off today at lunch forgetting I had these on and the back end started to fishtail right around, kind of cool actually.   :007:  The back tire looks quite nice as well.  I can't wait to try them out in the dirt!
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: Strada on June 09, 2011, 07:45:48 AM
*Originally Posted by KildareMan [+]
Can you even raise the fender by 20mm.  Looking at mine, 800 not xc, I would say there's no room to raise the fender at all, unless you replace the brake lines with straight runs from the master cylinder and do away with the loop over the fender.

Has anyone checked the suspension travel to see if there's contact on full jounce?
I fitted a stebel horn under the beak and did a quick measure up and there wasn't much to play with so had to tuck the horn up inside the beak cavity.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: Have a cup of tea on September 20, 2011, 10:36:11 PM
Modified SMIFFXC design slightly,

when you take the fender off you will see a plastic cover this is held in with a little plastic screw, remove this you can the line up the original bolt hole at the bottom of the fender with this and insert a 12mm M6 bolt (used button flange) makes it look a bit neater IMHO. other wise the same.  :002:
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: soph9 on September 25, 2011, 06:13:46 AM
we used Touratech front fender risers on our Triumph Tiger 800XC summer trip....$40 US

http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/3358/PN-420-5441/Front-Fender-Riser-Triumph-Tiger-800 (http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/3358/PN-420-5441/Front-Fender-Riser-Triumph-Tiger-800)

Easy to install...not expensive and worked

advgrrls.com (http://advgrrls.com)
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: fred88 on September 27, 2011, 12:15:09 AM
I have these. They work perfectly.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TRIUMPH-TIGER-800XC-DUAL-SPORT-FENDER-LIFT-KIT-OFF-ROAD-/290568156920?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a73636f8 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TRIUMPH-TIGER-800XC-DUAL-SPORT-FENDER-LIFT-KIT-OFF-ROAD-/290568156920?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a73636f8)
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: blacktiger on May 07, 2012, 11:16:11 AM
*Originally Posted by Strada [+]
Has anyone checked the suspension travel to see if there's contact on full jounce?
I fitted a stebel horn under the beak and did a quick measure up and there wasn't much to play with so had to tuck the horn up inside the beak cavity.

Burren Rider broke his mudguard by raising his too far. You'll have to search through this thread http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704559 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704559) I think he worked out that on full bump there's only 8mm clearance between guard and bottom yoke as standard. So even with the 15mm of the Touratech kit you're going to hit the guard. I'm hoping that there's enough flex in the guard to accommodate the other 7mm. Any more than 15mm beware.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: GIDEON on May 08, 2012, 07:56:13 AM
Mine also broke on my AAAGH Moment.
And thanks for the info.
 :460:
Might have to reduce it to 15mm. Is this tested or under development  :008:
Because I can make it smaller and test it for us at 15mm  :492: :492: :492:


Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: Ozmodias on October 26, 2020, 08:59:47 PM
Can someone update on making the blueprints for raising the fender with 15mm? Is it true that if you raise it more you will have issue with the radiator?
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: blacktiger on October 27, 2020, 07:29:40 AM
*Originally Posted by Ozmodias [+]
Can someone update on making the blueprints for raising the fender with 15mm? Is it true that if you raise it more you will have issue with the radiator?

Not the radiator. The risk is that it hits the bottom Yoke on full bump. Touratech do (or used to) a kit to raise it just the right amount.
Title: Re: Front Fender riser kit Engineering
Post by: Ozmodias on October 27, 2020, 07:47:10 AM
*Originally Posted by blacktiger [+]
Not the radiator. The risk is that it hits the bottom Yoke on full bump. Touratech do (or used to) a kit to raise it just the right amount.
And now it is out of stock... This is why I was looking for someone to share if he managed to upload schematics for the 15mm risers. Thanks for your clarification, by the way! :)