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Title: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Slowmo on October 11, 2017, 07:47:42 PM
Having done over 2,000 miles since fitting this system on the bike, I thought some feedback might be in order. Because the oiler operates under pressure, and is controlled by the rider, it suits me just fine. I like the 'on demand' approach and follow the manufacture's advice of lubing the chain when I fill up with fuel. Even I can remember that  :028:.
Turning the top bezel of the reservoir by 90 degrees releases 3 minutes of dripping oil onto the chain just in front of the rear sprocket. In wet conditions you can increase the flow by turning the bezel 180 degrees. The chain is oiled and there's no fling onto the rear wheel.
Because the system is pressurised, the maker states that any oil can be used, although they recommend 80/90 gear oil. So far , I've used Tutoro oil and that's been fine There's a visual marker on the handlebar unit so that you can see when refilling will be needed and although the makers state that one fill-up is good for 3,000 miles, it's probably closer to 2,500 for me, with mixed riding and some very mixed weather.
Previously, I've used both Scotslick and Tutoro Automatic oiler; I appreciate we all have different preferences but now I've found Nemo, I'll stick with it.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on October 11, 2017, 11:38:30 PM
Works well for me also but I have the reservoir mounted on the left pannier frame where there is a convenient hole at the front.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: bobthecod on January 15, 2018, 07:19:50 AM
I concur with you both, I have had my NEMO 2 Cobbra Oiler fitted now for around 5 months and to be honest I cant fault it. Its is discreet and doesn't look out of place. The installation instructions have the reservoir mounted onto the handle bars but I thought it would look too cluttered so I opted to mount mine elsewhere. I made a bracket out of a piece of stainless steel and mounted the bracket using the pinch bolts on the yolk at the top of the forks. The benefit of having it here is that I can operate it whilst perched on the bike. Specially handy if riding in sustained rain or you have gone through some water, whether a puddle or wading. Also great if you have been riding through dusty conditions, quarter turn and viola, chain oiled. Like you say Slowmo, a quick quarter turn every time you fill up and your done. Took me around an hour to install from start to finish.

I use gear oil (80W/90 Extreme Pressure) as recommended by Cobbra.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Tigermainia on January 15, 2018, 10:21:48 AM
 :493: sold...............my kind if simplicity, just bought one on Amazon  :152: :047: :046:

Got lots of European miles to do this year, peace of mind.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Pizzarepairman on January 15, 2018, 10:29:05 AM
I have one too, I like the simplicity and the look of it. 

I bought the extra accessory bracket and mounted it by my left hand mirror, which helps to remind me to use it!!



(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mRzp.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on January 15, 2018, 05:28:40 PM
And this is my installation.  Shorter run for tubing and out of the way of anything on the bars.  The oil dropper sits above and just in front of the rear sprocket so it isn't affected by chain bounce.

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mGZR.jpg)
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mAM4.jpg)
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mwWd.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: kiwal on January 28, 2018, 03:38:31 PM
@bulldogfour, how have you mounted the reservoir to the luggage arm?
Can you send some more detailed description/pic.

thx
Adam
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on January 28, 2018, 04:13:22 PM
I bought the set bracket + 15mm  See Cobrra website http://www.cobrra.co.uk/online-shop/

The pannier frame already has a convenient hole in it so it is just a case of bolting it on.  The cable tie is just steady the pipe.

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/Xyq1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Psychopasta on January 28, 2018, 06:43:45 PM
Just wanting to check I understand how this works...

My Tutoro has a weight that wobbles when the bike is moving and shoogles oil continuously out onto the chain (to use the technical terms). The Cobra uses pressure that you apply after each fill up to drop a dollopsworth of oil over a few minutes until the pressure is equalized.

I'm happy with my Tutoro so won't change it, but if that's correct then I prefer the method of the Cobra. It also looks better and where I hide the Tutoro you could make the Cobra look like it's a thing.

- P
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on January 28, 2018, 08:35:18 PM
To oil the chain you screw the cap a 1/4 turn and it increases the air pressure on the oil inside so that it is forced down the tube.  A complete fill of the reservoir they say can last for up to 5,000km.  Not tested that claim yet but would probably cover a decent European tour.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: kiwal on January 28, 2018, 09:02:53 PM
And 180 degree turn is used during rainy days?
What is going on then with the oil?
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Psychopasta on January 28, 2018, 09:38:05 PM
You get twice as much as with a 1/4 turn, that's all.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Tigermainia on January 29, 2018, 09:16:41 AM
*Originally Posted by Bulldogfour [+]
And this is my installation.  Shorter run for tubing and out of the way of anything on the bars.  The oil dropper sits above and just in front of the rear sprocket so it isn't affected by chain bounce.

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mGZR.jpg)
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mAM4.jpg)
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mwWd.jpg)

Hi, is the bracket at the dispensing/chain end just held in place by the adhesive strip on the bracket? Can't make it out from your pic.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 29, 2018, 10:53:54 AM
 ^^^Looks like it was fitted a bit too late looking at that pic of sprocket & chain.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on January 29, 2018, 11:21:59 PM
The last photo was taken some time after fitting and in the middle of rainy period.  Can't all be cleaning gods.

The Cobrra bracket is actually glued to a piece of steel strip that in turn is held in place by longer bolts through the lower chain guard. The rear bolt actually passes through the Cobrra U channel to ensure that it doesn't come loose - I wasn't going to trust an adhesive strip alone.  If the U channel had been longer then I could have put the front bolt through it also but it isn't.

The wire brace is marine grade stainless wire twisted to help me get the length correct and as the third side of a triangle gives the installation stability and prevents the dispensing arm moving.

The nut/bolt you can see just behind the end of the tube is to set the angle of the tube so that it is above the chain.  It works well and hasn't moved since fitting - unlike my first attempt which resulted in the tube being eaten by the chain as I forgot about chain bounce.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: DonVulpes on January 30, 2018, 06:41:48 AM
Looks like a fantastic system and so simple to use. Wish I'd seen this before I ponied up for the Scottoiler E-system  :015: :034:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 30, 2018, 08:17:36 AM
*Originally Posted by Bulldogfour [+]
The last photo was taken some time after fitting and in the middle of rainy period.  Can't all be cleaning gods.

I wasn't referring to the dirt, from the pic, the sprocket looks a tad on the tired side.

Do the instructions say to fit the dispenser up above the sprocket? Scottoiler say to fit theirs at bottom of rear sprocket so's centrifugal force sends the oil into the chain. Seems logical.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on January 30, 2018, 08:29:21 AM
The sprocket is fine (bike has only done 3k miles) itís a trick of the light.

As for dispensing position this arrangement drops oil onto the inside middle of the chain just before it gets to the sprocket.  Other makes put oil directly onto one or both sides of the sprocket but that can get messy.  Either way works I guess.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 30, 2018, 08:40:08 AM
Looks to be a good system, similar price to the Scottoiler V system but now the dealers tell us Triumph won't allow them to fit that, we have to have the E system at twice the price or possibly cause probs with electrickery, could be BS but we can't chance issues with warranty. My guess is, it's a lot quicker to fit the E system.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Tigermainia on January 30, 2018, 08:56:08 AM
*Originally Posted by Bulldogfour [+]
The last photo was taken some time after fitting and in the middle of rainy period.  Can't all be cleaning gods.

The Cobrra bracket is actually glued to a piece of steel strip that in turn is held in place by longer bolts through the lower chain guard. The rear bolt actually passes through the Cobrra U channel to ensure that it doesn't come loose - I wasn't going to trust an adhesive strip alone.  If the U channel had been longer then I could have put the front bolt through it also but it isn't.

The wire brace is marine grade stainless wire twisted to help me get the length correct and as the third side of a triangle gives the installation stability and prevents the dispensing arm moving.

The nut/bolt you can see just behind the end of the tube is to set the angle of the tube so that it is above the chain.  It works well and hasn't moved since fitting - unlike my first attempt which resulted in the tube being eaten by the chain as I forgot about chain bounce.

Hi Bulldogfour, many thanks for the detail, I had just noticed the two different bolts on the lower chain guard after I'd asked the question.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Fuge on January 30, 2018, 07:23:16 PM
Good info thanks chaps, I'm ordering one from Amazon tomorrow - once the wages of sin are in.

I'll also be following Bulldogfour's lead with a rear-fitment as it looks well tidy.  :062:

Moreover, there is enough weight on my bars as is and I like the idea of a shorter oil-pipe run with no constant flexing at the headstock. A leak there would transport me back to the good old days of how my TR65 looked with a rocker-box leak.  :007:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Psychopasta on January 31, 2018, 03:46:34 AM
Isn't death the wages of sin?
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: sezian on January 31, 2018, 07:41:30 AM
Interested to know why everyone here picked the Nemo 2 over the Tutoro?

I'm trying to decide (have ruled out the Scottoiler & Lubeman) which to go for, both very similar price, Nemo 2 looks good but only dishes out a few drops of oil when the top has been turned, the Tutoro is perhaps a little more complex but does keep oiling all the time the bike is moving.

If you've had this dilemma and have carefully considered one against the other please post reasons why as there seems to be far to much choice these days  :157:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 31, 2018, 08:22:16 AM
Why discount the Scottoiler, they've been at it a long time & got it right.

I've had Scottoilers on all my bikes for the past 20'odd years with no problems, all V system. Now my most recent Tiger 800 has the E system, this has the advantage of being able to set the drips spacing & a 60 second prime button if you want to give the chain extra lube after a soaking.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: KildareMan on January 31, 2018, 09:02:54 AM
*Originally Posted by sezian [+]
Interested to know why everyone here picked the Nemo 2 over the Tutoro?

I'm trying to decide (have ruled out the Scottoiler & Lubeman) which to go for, both very similar price, Nemo 2 looks good but only dishes out a few drops of oil when the top has been turned, the Tutoro is perhaps a little more complex but does keep oiling all the time the bike is moving.

If you've had this dilemma and have carefully considered one against the other please post reasons why as there seems to be far to much choice these days  :157:
Well the Tutoro is flaky in my experience and the company weren't great in correcting the issue.  Went with the Loobman in the end although in winter the Nemo would be better as it's a forced supply whereas Loobman, Scotoiler, Tutoro are all gravity based.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 31, 2018, 09:18:10 AM
*Originally Posted by KildareMan [+]
Well the Tutoro is flaky in my experience and the company weren't great in correcting the issue.  Went with the Loobman in the end although in winter the Nemo would be better as it's a forced supply whereas Loobman, Scotoiler, Tutoro are all gravity based.

The Scottoiler E system is pump fed.

https://www.scottoiler.com/us/esystem/how-it-works.html
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: sezian on January 31, 2018, 01:01:45 PM
I've discounted the Scottoiler for a couple of reasons, There are a few suggestions that "It could" upset the Tiger.............not sure how or why but it's been reported on here  :087:

The Scottoiler E System is absolutely silly money £200 for a chain oiler  :192: I'm struggling to accept paying £100. I've had a couple of scottoilers over the years and they do tend to get the back end a bit messy, having said that I'm assuming this could be the case with any oiler, I currently use Wurth Dry Lube, which is fantastic and doesn't make a mess  :028:

In the end you pay's your money and make's your choice, I guess everyone will (in most cases) favour the one they've bought (it's a bit like tyres, the best one's are the one's you've fitted).

I like the Nemo 2 for it's simplicity & "presumably"  not much can go wrong, I also like the fact it will give a good mileage before needing to be topped-up and with one of my tours this year I'm expecting to cover some 4,500 miles, and another over 2,000 mile so even though I love the Wurth lube I don't want to be messing around lubing the chain at the end of every day  :110:

I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if there are any real pro's or con's with either of these systems but at the moment I'm 70 / 30 in favour of the Nemo 2  :017:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 31, 2018, 01:44:01 PM
If cost was an issue I'd make one. There was a guy in Matlock Bath selling chain oilers for a fiver, they worked fine, all his chums had one, just had to remember to turn them off. Bit of a mod would cure that.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on January 31, 2018, 02:56:59 PM
I chose the Nemo because:

1. It doesnít need to be fitted under the seat like Scottoilers (at least thatís where I put my previous ones) as I would prefer to use the space for tools etc.
2. Itís well made and strong and fits easily in a few places unlike most of the other non-Scottoilers that whilst no doubt perform well they donít look so good fitted.
3. As it works by compression it hopefully will avoid the problem of changing viscosity with temperature as the drop oilers do.
4. It doesnít need to be connected to the bikeís vacuum or electrical systems.
5. The reservoir lasts a long time and is easily topped up with most gear oils if you run out.
6. Itís easier and cleaner to refill.  I remember my Scottoiler being a compete PITA to fill without spilling oil.
7. If you want to put more oil on the chain than normal you just turn the top a bit further and nothing to reset afterwards - unlike my old Scottoiler.
8. Easy to install - Well that isnít strictly true as getting the drop pipe into the right place was fiddly.  The shape of the Tiger swing arm isnít helpful and not is the presence of the lower chain guard.  However, now it is fitted it is solid and I know it is easy to remove.  Being a triangle as I have it then it is easy to put back into the right place - at least it has been.
9. I have bobbin mounts and the special Scottoiler dropper fitting for the Tiger wants to use the same hole so that doesnít work for me.

Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Slowmo on January 31, 2018, 03:09:36 PM
+1 Fully agree with Bulldogfour (Nos 1-7) Couldnít have put it better myself (so I wonít). For me, much better than Scotslick and Tutoro.
Jim
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Pizzarepairman on January 31, 2018, 03:14:34 PM
Also +1 with Bulldogfour and Slowmo

It's well made and I think it blends in nicely in the cockpit area.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: tauzero on January 31, 2018, 04:54:40 PM
I'm another one with an E-system - it came with the bike, I wouldn't have paid that much for a chain oiler, but it's very good. I want to put an oiler on the Scrambler though so I'm interested in all these things - the Turtoro is out because the Scrambler leans a ridiculous amount on the sidestand and the Turtoro needs to be near vertical both when the bike is upright and when it's on the stand. So do I get a V-system or pay a tenner more and get a Cobrra? Ah, decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Plodder on January 31, 2018, 05:31:44 PM
I was going to get a Scottoiler Esystem for a forthcoming trip, but seriously considering getting the Nemo instead. I don't want the reservoir on my handlebars (too crowded already), so thinking about mounting it on my PLR6401 pannier rack if I can find somewhere suitable. I'm just wondering how it would cope with all the crap flung up from below. What's the bottom of the reservoir like? Is the muck likely to affect the rotation during filling or lubing?
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Fuge on January 31, 2018, 07:30:52 PM
*Originally Posted by Psychopasta [+]
Isn't death the wages of sin?
:430: I'm sure you are right, it's just an expression that got lodged in my mind sometime and I've never bothered to acquire the definition.  :192: I just liked the way it rhymed with 'in'.

Thanks for the clarification Psychopasta.  :062:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Psychopasta on February 01, 2018, 05:16:46 AM
Mind how you go, Fuge  :028:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: sezian on February 01, 2018, 02:54:22 PM
Interested to know how the oil feed pipe is routed from the reservoir, the important bit being how you get the pipe to the lower chain guard  :187:

Reading other installations I think people have gone through the swinging arm cut-outs, but not sure how to get round the rear shock and still leave enough spare pipe for movement of the swinging arm without it possibly snagging in the shock  :261:

Bulldogfour - Do you have yours routed through the swinging arm or underneath? Any info (and possible pics) would be appreciated  :031:

Looking to run mine from the handlebar area so the oil pipe can come out either from inside the battery box or to the side of it but can't see an easy way to get the pipe from that area to the swinging arm cut-out just behind the shock   :148:

 
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Happyjack on February 01, 2018, 03:11:32 PM
*Originally Posted by sezian [+]


Looking to run mine from the handlebar area so the oil pipe can come out either from inside the battery box or to the side of it but can't see an easy way to get the pipe from that area to the swinging arm cut-out just behind the shock   :148:

 
Hi Sezian,
If you can get as far as the battery box....
I fitted my scott oiler under the pillion seat and ran the tube forward to the right hand side of the battery.
There is a small gap at the bottom of the front right hand corner of the rest of the plastic moulding that includes the battery box.
If you push the tube into that corner you should find it will come out just forward and below the rear brake reservoir .
The tube can then be routed with the rear brake pipe down to the swinging arm and into the swinging arm cut-out.

cheers

Happyjack
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on February 01, 2018, 04:37:46 PM
*Originally Posted by sezian [+]
Interested to know how the oil feed pipe is routed from the reservoir, the important bit being how you get the pipe to the lower chain guard  :187:

Reading other installations I think people have gone through the swinging arm cut-outs, but not sure how to get round the rear shock and still leave enough spare pipe for movement of the swinging arm without it possibly snagging in the shock  :261:

Bulldogfour - Do you have yours routed through the swinging arm or underneath? Any info (and possible pics) would be appreciated  :031:

Looking to run mine from the handlebar area so the oil pipe can come out either from inside the battery box or to the side of it but can't see an easy way to get the pipe from that area to the swinging arm cut-out just behind the shock   :148:

Mine is mounted on the pannier frame (see earlier pics) so nowhere close to the spring.  Here is a pic of the pipe run from the reservoir.  It passed through between the upper chain guard and the swing arm and is tie-wrapped to ensure it stays in place and no-where near the chain.

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mqXc.jpg)


 
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Plodder on February 12, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
Inspired by Bulldogfour's use of the lower chainguard mounting, here's my take on it. The tubing exits the cutout in the swingarm and drops into the hole on the top of the u-channel before being threaded through the dispensing arm. The u-channel is mounted using the same M6 bolts as the lower chainguard, but replaced with 40mm ones.

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/Nemo_Dispenser_Bracket3c9eb25e31963f04.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on February 13, 2018, 12:05:55 AM
👍

Top looking job Plodder.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: kshah81 on March 07, 2018, 12:34:20 PM
Any idea how this would mount on the 2018, if I didn't want to put it on the handlebar.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Plodder on March 07, 2018, 12:59:00 PM
I mounted mine on the frame (2016 XR) on the left hand side, in pretty much the same position as the rear brake reservoir on the right hand side. I used a P-clip at first, but there was a little too much flex at the mount point, so I replaced it with a "Micky Mouse" clamp. It's a good position - easy to fill, and easy to turn when you're riding.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: belboy15 on March 07, 2018, 07:22:46 PM
Hi guys, many thanks for the great reviews and install advice. I'm sold now on the Cobrra defo as nice to be in control and very much like the quality/build, install is very neat around the pannier frame.  :152:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: DonVulpes on March 08, 2018, 08:02:11 AM
Does anyone have any pics of the install ( other than on the handlebar ), please ? I'm sold on getting one of these for my Thruxton. :028:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Plodder on March 08, 2018, 12:27:04 PM
*Originally Posted by DonVulpes [+]
Does anyone have any pics of the install ( other than on the handlebar ), please ? I'm sold on getting one of these for my Thruxton. :028:
Here you go...

Rubbish photos, but it's too bloomin' cold to take the bike out of the garage

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/rsz_p308005677e1b1668ef34fcd.jpg)

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/rsz_1rsz_p30800551a9620c72f4e3c57.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: DonVulpes on March 08, 2018, 12:32:15 PM
Excellent, thanks  :028:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: kshah81 on March 08, 2018, 12:37:11 PM
*Originally Posted by Plodder [+]
Here you go...

Rubbish photos, but it's too bloomin' cold to take the bike out of the garage

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/rsz_p308005677e1b1668ef34fcd.jpg)

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/rsz_1rsz_p30800551a9620c72f4e3c57.jpg)

What clamp or how have you fitted it? Thanks
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Plodder on March 08, 2018, 01:24:52 PM
*Originally Posted by kshah81 [+]
What clamp or how have you fitted it? Thanks

I tried a P-clip first, but it wasn't up to the job, and ended up using one of these: http://r.ebay.com/GGG7ep

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/s-l5009635f250a1d50aeb.png)

26-28mm was the right size, allowing for some self-amalgamating tape to protect the frame.

I was worried that there was not much surface area to stop the bracket pivoting on the clamp. Star washers helped. I may replace the bolt later with something with a larger head, but it's not really necessary - a few hundred miles on and there's been no movement.

Note that the Nemo is directly below the "V" in the seat. This helps to feel your way when reaching down and turning it.

I thought about putting it on the pannier frame first, but it would have got filthy underneath, and the underside should be kept clean. Also, it's dead easy to route the tubing from where it's positioned into the front hole in the swingarm.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: DonVulpes on March 08, 2018, 01:35:21 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/i6bWpru.jpg)

I reckon one would fit just here, perfectly
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on March 08, 2018, 01:40:43 PM
*Originally Posted by DonVulpes [+]
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/i6bWpru.jpg)

I reckon one would fit just here, perfectly

Liking the Thrux, 'tis a beaut.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: KildareMan on March 08, 2018, 02:09:42 PM
*Originally Posted by DonVulpes [+]
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/i6bWpru.jpg)

I reckon one would fit just here, perfectly

Ohh that's really smart.  Suits you Sir.  :028:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Stevie.P on March 08, 2018, 04:15:07 PM
*Originally Posted by Plodder [+]
Here you go...

Rubbish photos, but it's too bloomin' cold to take the bike out of the garage

Good job .... very neat.  :152:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: belboy15 on March 08, 2018, 07:31:16 PM
Lovely bike  :062: Should fit neatly. My Nemo arrives tomorrow so will be spending some tinkering time over the weekend fitting.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Ukhornet on January 11, 2019, 03:19:45 PM
Just bought a Cobra Nemo 2 chain oiler and i'm struggling to see how to mount the dispensing arm down near the rear sprocket and chain (2017 Tiger XR). Has anyone got some pics or info please.
Ta
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Pizzarepairman on January 11, 2019, 03:24:57 PM
I secured mine under the swinging arm, so the feed pipe comes down just in front of the rear sprocket (2017 XRX)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on January 11, 2019, 04:15:55 PM
Photos of my attachment.  The 1st two are straight after fitting, the 3rd is after is got dirty.

I used the two bolts holding the lower chain guard and a twisted marine grade SS wire to complete the triangle and keep if firm.  The U channel is glued to another strip of metal to match the chain guard bolt spacing.  It works well and is out of the way.  If the chain rubbing strip needs replacing then I will have to detach it probably and refit. 

Don't let the pipe get too close to the cog otherwise it will get eaten!

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mGZR.jpg)
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mAM4.jpg)
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/mwWd.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: KildareMan on January 11, 2019, 04:25:58 PM
Bought from an inmate here.  Have it mounted off the left fork top pinch bolts.  I've altered the applicator end to make the tip - which wears, easily replaceable.  Possibly the best oiler I've ever used.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: lanerider on January 12, 2019, 12:57:54 PM
I have one of these on my xcx there very good and easy to fit
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Mrbump on January 12, 2019, 04:57:15 PM
Does it require any cutting into pipes? For the pressure?.. Not been of the technical ilk I would like something simple to fit.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Bulldogfour on January 12, 2019, 06:30:53 PM
No external connections needed.  The pressure comes from screwing the nemo cap down further (1/4 turn at a time).  Very simple.  Just do that every 150'ish miles and job done.  Take it slowly for a few minutes to allow oil to get onto the chain and not fly off.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: sezian on January 13, 2019, 08:57:13 AM
Had one, sold it, tooooooo much fling  :151:

Sticking with Wurth High Performance Dry Chain Lube - Fantastic stuff no mess, no problem  :028:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 13, 2019, 09:11:36 AM
I read a quarter turn gives 3 minutes of oil, I guess that is in drips, how many drips per minute is that? Is there any adjustment to the drips per minute?
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: sezian on January 13, 2019, 09:14:39 AM
No adjustments, just turn the lid and it drips, then flings all over the back wheel  :138:

The only thing that may make a difference is the viscosity of the oil  :084:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 13, 2019, 09:22:32 AM
Bit like a Scotty that's set too high then.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: sezian on January 13, 2019, 09:36:32 AM
Not really, a Scottoiler has a constant feed when the bike is running as it's connected to the carb (throttle body) vacuum, and has an adjustable flow. The Cobra just has a simple turn the lid and let the oil run out.

You could say the Cobra was simular in the fact that all these chain oilers end up flinging the oil over the back wheel  :151:

If you don't like constantly having to clean all this crap off use the Wurth lube  :152:

After all how long does it take to lube a chain  :260:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 13, 2019, 10:00:09 AM
I set the Scotty at one drip every 40 seconds, then no fling. I was asking how many drips per min the Nemo gave during its 3 mins for comparison. If it's dropping maybe 5 drips per min it could fling off. Has nobody checked it?
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Mav on January 13, 2019, 11:46:37 AM
Use mine when Iím 5 minutes from home. 30mph all the way home, no fling and the oil seeps into the chain once its back home and on its stand.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: sezian on January 13, 2019, 12:18:03 PM
If you go by the Nemo instructions you would make a lid turn when filling up with petrol, and then when riding away let the oil run round the chain whilst the bike was moving - fairly obvious really as otherwise it would just end up as a puddle of oil on the floor  :017:

I always did this and road for some miles, usually at a steady pace after filling up as most (not all) petrol is obtained in mainly built up areas. Didn't make any difference the oil still ended up on the back wheel  :157:

I'm unsure how any user of automatic chain oilers has not ended up with oil on the back wheel  :187:  I've had a Scottoiler a Nemo 2 and a couple of other chain oilers all of which ended up depositing oil on the back wheel.

If you're doing somewhere in the region of 200 miles a day every day I can understand the requirement, as for the extended chain life I think you'll find that some of these extended chain life claims are a little exaggerated  :084: :084: :084:

IMHO regular chain cleaning and lubrication will extend the life of any chain, by fitting a chain oiler a lot of folk think that's it, I don't need to do anything else, which is not the case, keep the chain clean, give it a good lube every couple of hundred miles and the chain will last well.

And in answer to Paulhere from what I remember the drip rate was probably one drip about every 5-10 seconds.



 
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: KildareMan on January 13, 2019, 01:12:33 PM
Drop rate is a bit of a misnomer. Its a scotoiler concept created by scotoiler start numerous thread wars. Fa t of the matter is that a positive displacement pump, whether mechanical or electrical is miles better than pure gravity.  :164:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on January 13, 2019, 01:21:27 PM
*Originally Posted by sezian [+]
And in answer to Paulhere from what I remember the drip rate was probably one drip about every 5-10 seconds.

Ok thankyou, that's what I was thinking, the problem could be. if I set the Scotty at 1 drip per 20 secs or less it would be all over the wheel. As I said 1 drip per 40 secs & it's fine.

I wouldn't be without an auto oiler of some sort, pita carrying all the stuff then cleaning & oiling every couple of hundred miles when on a 2.5-3k mile tour. The auto oiler has to take some credit for chain kits lasting 30+k miles.

This is just my opinion. We all have our own thoughts & opinions on this. Depends what we use our bikes for.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: K1W1 on October 07, 2019, 07:38:26 AM
*Originally Posted by sezian [+]
You could say the Cobra was simular in the fact that all these chain oilers end up flinging the oil over the back wheel  :151:

Never had a drop of oil on my rear wheel and I have been using the Cobrra for a couple of months now. I'm using standard gear oil as the lubricate.
The oil gets deposited on the centre of the chain immediately in front of the sprocket so it is physically impossible for it to fling off as within a microsecond of hitting the chain it is compressed between the chain roller and the sprocket.
In 40+ years of riding motorcycles my chain is the best lubed it ever has been and that is going back to the days when we used to heat cans of Duckhams chain grease in the oven and let the chain sink into the liquid grease and then remove the whole think and hang the chain up to drip back into the can as the grease set.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Q on October 07, 2019, 10:38:25 AM
*Originally Posted by Plodder [+]
Here you go...

Rubbish photos, but it's too bloomin' cold to take the bike out of the garage

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/rsz_p308005677e1b1668ef34fcd.jpg)

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/rsz_1rsz_p30800551a9620c72f4e3c57.jpg)

love this install - tks mate, going to follow your lead on this
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: K1W1 on October 07, 2019, 11:18:46 AM
*Originally Posted by Q [+]
love this install - tks mate, going to follow your lead on this

I put mine in the same place. Just used a P clamp on the frame.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:live.staticflickr.com/65535/48327609027_fb775314f3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gCxCsp)

The other end is the issue. the bracket won't really fit to the swing are in a good place because of the chain guard and bobbin holder. I used a piece of alloy and secured that to the rear of the chain guard with longer bolts then cut the Cobrra bracket down and used JB weld and a cable tie to hold it. The little arm is positioned perfectly to drip oil in the right place now.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:live.staticflickr.com/65535/48327478481_dff6a2e7ef_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gCwXDB)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: petesear on October 07, 2019, 07:56:15 PM
This weekend's installation..

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/IMG-20191005-WA0007.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: KildareMan on October 08, 2019, 11:05:47 AM
My set up.
Involves aspects of Nemo, Scottoiler and Loobman - so just about all are included.

Reservoir mounted to inboard Barkbuster clamp
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/IMG_20191008_104134_1_tn.jpg)

Left Loobman applicator holder in place. It's rock solid and positioned just right
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/IMG_20191008_104155_1_tn.jpg)

Loobman holder from other side.
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/IMG_20191008_104217_1_tn.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Paulhere on October 08, 2019, 12:11:00 PM
Looks a bit late for that chain kit, sprocket looks worn out.  :164:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: mcinlb on October 08, 2019, 12:44:29 PM
Also the lub pipe end is quite high off the chain, lub liable to blow away ???
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: KildareMan on October 08, 2019, 12:54:41 PM
@Paulhere.  That's the angle of the photo. No hooking in reality.

@mcinlb.  Application tip onto the sprocket as per Scottoiler/loobman.  Centrifugal throwing it out onto chain.

Not bad for 50,597km and counting
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: mcinlb on October 08, 2019, 01:15:23 PM
 :028: :028:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: dasf on October 08, 2019, 05:10:25 PM
Mounted the Nemo reservoir at the clutch lever. Easy to reach and also serves as a reminder to turn the reservoir after every petrol fill.

The mount is DIY as I use a brush instead of letting the oil drip on the chain. The mount use the two screws for the chain guard but also a third screw to the bobbin hole. I now can adjust the brush in an easy way with the chain guard off.

On the Net I found some lubrication system for industrial use and they all used a brush to lubricate so I copied their solution to my bike and it works great.
No fling, also lube the chain between slewing the reservoir. Can really see the difference when riding in heavy rain. The chain have a thin oil layer all the time and is very clean.
I use a round brush, a little bit wider than the chain. Cut off the handle and drilled a 4 mm hole topdown and put the oil feeder pipe down the brush. Put the brush into a metal strap connected to my DIY plate. The brush just touching the chain and that seems ok. The brush now lubricate and clean the chain constantly.
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/Nemo-2-reservoir.jpg)
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/Nemo-2-DIY-plate.jpg)
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/Nemo-2-brush.jpg)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Q on October 08, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
innovative idea - won't work for me as in South Africa it is dust, and dust, maybe some gorilla snot and then more dust

so I guess that brush will get very stiff very quickly and become unserviceable in our conditions - good idea nevertheless
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: KildareMan on October 08, 2019, 07:49:07 PM
*Originally Posted by dasf [+]
Mounted the Nemo reservoir at the clutch lever. Easy to reach and also serves as a reminder to turn the reservoir after every petrol fill.

The mount is DIY as I use a brush instead of letting the oil drip on the chain. The mount use the two screws for the chain guard but also a third screw to the bobbin hole. I now can adjust the brush in an easy way with the chain guard off.

On the Net I found some lubrication system for industrial use and they all used a brush to lubricate so I copied their solution to my bike and it works great.
No fling, also lube the chain between slewing the reservoir. Can really see the difference when riding in heavy rain. The chain have a thin oil layer all the time and is very clean.
I use a round brush, a little bit wider than the chain. Cut off the handle and drilled a 4 mm hole topdown and put the oil feeder pipe down the brush. Put the brush into a metal strap connected to my DIY plate. The brush just touching the chain and that seems ok. The brush now lubricate and clean the chain constantly.

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/Nemo-2-brush.jpg)

Like that a lot.  Well done.   :028:
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Djairouks on October 09, 2019, 06:02:29 PM
I was interested in fitting one of these, as the big cans of 500ml of motorex chain lube spray we got here in Switzerland, take lots of luggages room when traveling and sometimes one was barely enough by rainy trips.

Does anyone have a rough idea, of the volume Inside the cup for the claimed 5000km ?
The can of motorex is about 20Chf and I see the 500ml of 80/90 oÔl for 6Chf, so seems it would also be cheaper.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: dasf on October 09, 2019, 06:54:51 PM
Capacity: approx. 30 ml
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Djairouks on October 09, 2019, 07:04:42 PM
*Originally Posted by dasf [+]
Capacity: approx. 30 ml

Holly molly, so 16 fills from a 500ml bottle, if say it lasts 3000km per fill, that's a whoping 48'000km for 6 Chf !
I think i bought 4 cans of motorex for my Honda's rougly 40'000Km, so 80Chf which is a crazy difference, I will definitely fit one it will be quickly reimboursed !
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: K1W1 on October 09, 2019, 09:08:11 PM
*Originally Posted by Djairouks [+]
Holly molly, so 16 fills from a 500ml bottle, if say it lasts 3000km per fill, that's a whoping 48'000km for 6 Chf !
I think i bought 4 cans of motorex for my Honda's rougly 40'000Km, so 80Chf which is a crazy difference, I will definitely fit one it will be quickly reimboursed !

It does not last anything like 3000km per fill.
My initial thoughts were that there were from memory 15 x quarter turns of the device available but in use it runs out of oil before all 15 quarter turns are used up. Iím thinking about 1800-2000km per fill but it all depends on how often you need or want to lube the chain.
For travel if you think you need a little more oil just get a 100ml bottle from a supermarket or elsewhere and tip some oil into that. That will give you a couple of refills and take up next to no space.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Djairouks on October 10, 2019, 06:46:26 AM
*Originally Posted by K1W1 [+]
It does not last anything like 3000km per fill.
My initial thoughts were that there were from memory 15 x quarter turns of the device available but in use it runs out of oil before all 15 quarter turns are used up. Iím thinking about 1800-2000km per fill but it all depends on how often you need or want to lube the chain.
For travel if you think you need a little more oil just get a 100ml bottle from a supermarket or elsewhere and tip some oil into that. That will give you a couple of refills and take up next to no space.

Still about 30'000Km for a 6Chf oil bottle, that easily 10 times less expensive than with the chain spray !
Yes my longest tour was 6500Km in 2 weeks and so I needed 2 500ml cans to be sure, a little 100ml bottle would definitely be a gain of luggage space !
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: K1W1 on October 10, 2019, 08:06:00 AM
*Originally Posted by Djairouks [+]
Still about 30'000Km for a 6Chf oil bottle, that easily 10 times less expensive than with the chain spray !

Agree. The gear oil I am using is $8 per litre so that is around 30 top ups of the reservoir.
Cans of spray lube are around $25 per can and last maybe the equivalent of two-three top ups which is about $0.50-$0.75 cents of gear oil.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: dasf on October 10, 2019, 08:59:16 AM
Made a trip to Norway this summer. The trip was 4500 km and lasted 10 days. I filled the Cobra when leaving home and had a 60 ml spare oil bottle with me. After 3000 km i decides to refill the Cobra and found it was not empty. Lot of oil dripped into the brush ( I use a brush instead of letting the oil drip to the chain) when I opened the Cobra for refill. None af the oil went to the ground ( I like what Greta stands forÖ) but was kept in the brush. Another + for using a brush.
The remaining oil was surely enough for 500 extra km.
I turn the Cobra every time I fill up the petrol tank, every 300 km. My consumption in Norway is about 3.8 liter per 100 km.
So I think 3500 km is in reach for every Cobra fill and with a spare oil bottle of 60 ml you can reach 10000 km depending of weather and how often you turn the Cobra.
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Djairouks on October 10, 2019, 09:11:00 AM
*Originally Posted by dasf [+]
Made a trip to Norway this summer. The trip was 4500 km and lasted 10 days. I filled the Cobra when leaving home and had a 60 ml spare oil bottle with me. After 3000 km i decides to refill the Cobra and found it was not empty. Lot of oil dripped into the brush ( I use a brush instead of letting the oil drip to the chain) when I opened the Cobra for refill. None af the oil went to the ground ( I like what Greta stands forÖ) but was kept in the brush. Another + for using a brush.
The remaining oil was surely enough for 500 extra km.
I turn the Cobra every time I fill up the petrol tank, every 300 km. My consumption in Norway is about 3.8 liter per 100 km.
So I think 3500 km is in reach for every Cobra fill and with a spare oil bottle of 60 ml you can reach 10000 km depending of weather and how often you turn the Cobra.

I also did roughly 3.8l/100 with my Honda, on all these 60/80kmh roads, that was pretty easy !

Amazing, maybe I'll try to work something out with a light sponge at the tip rubbing the chain, see if it improves  the oiling.
With the cans I would need maybe to grease every 800km on the Honda so every 2 fills, each cans lasting about 8 sprays, so basically the oil need is more frequent, still this makes a 56'000Km for a 6Chf bottle, opposed to 9 cans of Motorex costing 180Chf, this really is a no brainer when riding so much !

Also did 3.8l/10 on my Honda, with all these slow roads and no highways ever, but with the 2018 Tiger honestly I would manage even less as I see these days, I'm doing 4.1L/100 on my daily commute with a short highway ride, while I was doing 4.5L/100 on the Honda !
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Stevie.P on October 10, 2019, 10:53:13 AM
*Originally Posted by dasf [+]
(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/Nemo-2-brush.jpg)

I have an electronic "Lubetronic" oiler (about 15yrs old now?) on my Bonnie with the flow rate control unit which I'm thinking of fitting to my Tiger. The Lubetronic is no longer available Ö
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/2672

Ö. but basically became the PDOiler Mk3.
http://www.pdoiler.co.uk/united%20kingdom%20store.htm

The interesting upgrade on the PD version is that it no longer has a delivery tube directly above the chain but, similar to the above home made solution, uses a wick to hold and apply the oil and therefor reduce/eliminate the potential oil fling off onto the rear tyre. If I get around the fitting the oiler to the Tiger I will certainly order the new delivery "wick feeder".
http://www.pdoiler.co.uk/mk3%20parts.htm
(the pics showing it fitted on a Tiger)
Title: Re: Cobrra Nemo 2 chain oiler: feedback
Post by: Djairouks on October 10, 2019, 11:40:09 AM
*Originally Posted by Stevie.P [+]
I have an electronic "Lubetronic" oiler (about 15yrs old now?) on my Bonnie with the flow rate control unit which I'm thinking of fitting to my Tiger. The Lubetronic is no longer available Ö
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/2672

Ö. but basically became the PDOiler Mk3.
http://www.pdoiler.co.uk/united%20kingdom%20store.htm

The interesting upgrade on the PD version is that it no longer has a delivery tube directly above the chain but, similar to the above home made solution, uses a wick to hold and apply the oil and therefor reduce/eliminate the potential oil fling off onto the rear tyre. If I get around the fitting the oiler to the Tiger I will certainly order the new delivery "wick feeder".
http://www.pdoiler.co.uk/mk3%20parts.htm
(the pics showing it fitted on a Tiger)

Ouh thanks for posting this, while I want low tech options and low weight, so Cobrra is better, but I will now buy a oil lamp wich to use at the end of the tube !