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Title: Got numb hands?
Post by: Jonny2001 on June 21, 2011, 05:19:51 AM
Managed to put 2700km on the bike up until now despite some pretty crappy weather and I've continued to have the same problem I tended to have with the previous bike only a bit worse. If I ride on a straight road for a few minutes, my hands tend to get real numb. I can shake the left hand loose, but the right one's on the gas so I sometimes have to speed up a little, pull the clutch in and release the gas so I can take my hand off the grip and shake it off. The problem doesn't come up riding city streets because I'm constantly moving around shifting, braking, accelerating, etc.

Anyone got some tricks to deal with this? I was wondering if making my grips larger might help, but I haven't found many larger diameter grips that aren't chromed for a cruiser. I find the stock grips a little small for my hands (was the same on the Versys). Gripping the bars so tight isn't that comfortable.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: t8coco on June 21, 2011, 09:14:10 AM
 Sounds like you are holding the bars too tight, the heated grips are bigger and might help. Or maybe try moving the bars back of get some risers, have you used different gloves, maybe some winter/ padded ones? Possibly just slow down and relax a bit and this might help  :027: I find the Tiger one of the smoothest vibe free bikes i have ridden and have no issue, good luck hope you a solution  :001:
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: yiannis on June 21, 2011, 11:06:30 AM
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Title: Got numb hands?
Post by: SeanD_Colorado on June 21, 2011, 01:58:34 PM
I tend to find the stock grips a little small as well. But when I ride, I tend to more or less just lay my hands across the grips with a couple of fingers over the controls. I don't do it so much to cover the controls, I just find it comfortable to ride that way. I don't notice any vibration to speak of, no numbing in the hands.

My wife uses the Grab-on grip covers on her GS. She really likes them. She was complaining about some vibration problems on her bike, and they seemed to have solved it for her. They seem to work well with the heated grips.
http://www.grabongrips.com/motorcycle.php
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: TampaJim on June 21, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
Try Grip Puppies of some other similar foam slip-on grip cover.. Even if they don't help you are only out $10 and nothing has been forever altered.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: GringoRojo on June 21, 2011, 04:18:34 PM
I only got numb hands after the heated grips were fitted. and no I don't have tiny hands. I don't consider the bike to be vibey though.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Mtl_Tiger on June 21, 2011, 04:37:09 PM
I was getting numb hands too (mostly the right hand) in the beginning.  And it wasn't happening with my BMW (maybe partially because of the cruise control which I'd often use on the highway).

Anyway, it took awhile, but I finally realized that I was holding the throttle much too tightly and now I'm able to relax my right hand so much that even after a ride yesterday of 400+ km I didn't haven't any problem with my hands. 

(I don't have heated grips, and use a rather thin summer glove from BMW called the Airflow II.)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: knokinonabit on June 21, 2011, 07:48:59 PM
When riding my Fazer 600 I constantly had a numb right hand after about ten miles or so. After a 2 hour plus test ride on the Tiger I had no problems at all. I realised that I was putting more weight on my wrists/hands on the Fazer and my arms were more tense. Made a conciouse effort to use more weight through the pegs with my feet and relax my upper body and it worked. No more numb hand. I have to keep working at it cos if I go back to my old style, numb right hand.

Roll on the Tiger.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: docflanders on June 22, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
Try a crampbuster on the throttle as it allows you to loosen your grip and control the gas with the heel of your hand.

http://www.scottoiler.com/uk/Accessories/Crampbuster-Standard/flypage.tpl.html (http://www.scottoiler.com/uk/Accessories/Crampbuster-Standard/flypage.tpl.html)
http://www.crampbuster.com/ (http://www.crampbuster.com/)

Doc
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: knokinonabit on June 22, 2011, 08:36:50 PM
*Originally Posted by docflanders [+]
Try a crampbuster on the throttle as it allows you to loosen your grip and control the gas with the heel of your hand.

http://www.scottoiler.com/uk/Accessories/Crampbuster-Standard/flypage.tpl.html (http://www.scottoiler.com/uk/Accessories/Crampbuster-Standard/flypage.tpl.html)
http://www.crampbuster.com/ (http://www.crampbuster.com/)

Doc

Thanks Doc. Hopefully with the Tiger I won't need one.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Jonny2001 on June 24, 2011, 06:21:06 AM
*Originally Posted by t8coco [+]
Sounds like you are holding the bars too tight

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I am too, just like I keep my knees too tightly on the tank sometimes too. I forgot to mention that I do have a throttle rocker, but it's not solving the whole problem. I'm gonna try and concentrate on relaxing my hands.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: m11key on June 24, 2011, 09:12:04 PM
Iam certain it is about relaxing your upper body.Try it and see! Good luck it will work.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Seaforth Kid on June 27, 2011, 08:39:32 AM
I have also had numb throttle hand while riding at higher speeds.  Personally don't think I am giving it a death grip either.  At about 4200 rpm's, in all gears I am sensing a high frequency vibration.  Best way to feel the bike come into the vibration is to set my hand on the clutch lever.  As I accelerate up to about 4200 rpm's the vibration starts.  This is not a handle bar shaking vibration but rather a high frequency vibration.  Anyone else got this going on.  Have not talked to service about this as I wanted to post here first for any feedback from fellow owners.  Thanks
BTW.....Love the bike but at highway speeds this is a little annoying.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: stevec9957 on June 29, 2011, 04:43:32 AM
Not me, got OEM heated grips and XC risers. Very comfy.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: rugby536 on June 30, 2011, 02:49:47 PM
*Originally Posted by Seaforth Kid [+]
I have also had numb throttle hand while riding at higher speeds.  Personally don't think I am giving it a death grip either.  At about 4200 rpm's, in all gears I am sensing a high frequency vibration.  Best way to feel the bike come into the vibration is to set my hand on the clutch lever.  As I accelerate up to about 4200 rpm's the vibration starts.  This is not a handle bar shaking vibration but rather a high frequency vibration.  Anyone else got this going on.  Have not talked to service about this as I wanted to post here first for any feedback from fellow owners.  Thanks
BTW.....Love the bike but at highway speeds this is a little annoying.
Yep I get pretty much the exact same thing on my XC.  I find it worse on a light throttle, no issues if I'm accelerating through that rev range.  I also noticed that at about 80mph my right hand mirror is perfect but the left hand has a but of vibration on it, I can still see something is behind me but it is slightly fuzzy.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Panos69 on June 30, 2011, 03:04:32 PM
*Originally Posted by Seaforth Kid [+]
I have also had numb throttle hand while riding at higher speeds.  Personally don't think I am giving it a death grip either.  At about 4200 rpm's, in all gears I am sensing a high frequency vibration.  Best way to feel the bike come into the vibration is to set my hand on the clutch lever.  As I accelerate up to about 4200 rpm's the vibration starts.  This is not a handle bar shaking vibration but rather a high frequency vibration.  Anyone else got this going on.  Have not talked to service about this as I wanted to post here first for any feedback from fellow owners.  Thanks
BTW.....Love the bike but at highway speeds this is a little annoying.

How many miles up to now? I am asking because my dealer claimed that a new engine may be rough until it is ran in.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Seaforth Kid on July 01, 2011, 09:33:30 AM
I only have about 1200 miles (1931 kilometers)
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: docflanders on July 01, 2011, 08:23:22 PM
*Originally Posted by rugby536 [+]
Yep I get pretty much the exact same thing on my XC.  I find it worse on a light throttle, no issues if I'm accelerating through that rev range.  I also noticed that at about 80mph my right hand mirror is perfect but the left hand has a but of vibration on it, I can still see something is behind me but it is slightly fuzzy.

same here, quite bizarre how it is the left hand mirror more than the right.  I am also doing a couple hundred mile commute so I really get to feel the buzz in the hands. Yes, you can vary the speed between 65 and 85 but it is still there.

I think it has worsened since the 500 service, I am now at 1400.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Beemie on July 02, 2011, 04:24:09 AM
I used to get that alot until I got a throttle thingie that allows the palm of the hand operate the throttle rather than having a death grip on it.
Basically the issue was holding on too tight.
There is a picture of the gizmo on the top of the second page of the article below.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/191431/how_to_relieve_motorcycle_and_scooter.html?cat=5 (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/191431/how_to_relieve_motorcycle_and_scooter.html?cat=5)
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Alchemist on July 11, 2011, 01:23:29 AM
I get numb hands as well on the XC.  I'll wait until I install the heated grips before doing anything about it.  I definitely want some kind of throttle lock.  Bar end weights can sometimes help too.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Jonny2001 on July 11, 2011, 06:15:22 AM
*Originally Posted by Alchemist [+]
I get numb hands as well on the XC.  I'll wait until I install the heated grips before doing anything about it.  I definitely want some kind of throttle lock.  Bar end weights can sometimes help too.

I've been noticing some vibration too and I was wondering if weights might help. I'll probably look into them some time. The Weights on the Versys seemed rather well designed, but I know they'll be stupid expensive since they're OEM parts...
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Zeus44 on July 11, 2011, 08:09:05 AM
I had a carpal tunnel operation (to correct a blood flow restrictioin causing pins and needles) on my right hand a few years ago and was told that my left would most likely eventually need the same op – I had no problem with it on a Honda 250x, a Moto Morini Corsaro Veloce and a Suzuki Bandit – on the Tiger my left hand goes numb within 10 minutes of riding even with the lightest of grips. Until I read this thread I was considering another op!
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: CSAW on July 11, 2011, 01:02:13 PM
*Originally Posted by rugby536 [+]
I also noticed that at about 80mph my right hand mirror is perfect but the left hand has a but of vibration on it, I can still see something is behind me but it is slightly fuzzy.

Noticed the same thing.  Thought I was nuts. 

My right hand gets numb also but it does on any bike.  I don't hold on too tight.  I think it is more to do with my back or shoulders or something.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: KildareMan on July 11, 2011, 01:05:20 PM
Sometimes get numb but only the mornings.  Your blood is thicker then.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Scrambler on July 11, 2011, 01:26:47 PM
I had the same problem, I changed gloves, riding position, gripped tight, gripped lose ( moved bars back and forth) nothing worked . Then I slowed my average speed down a little and the resonace frequency of the bike changed and I have no issues re numb hands. About 10mph should do it.

Alan :300:
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: racer 84s on July 11, 2011, 01:57:05 PM
My numbness went away when I put on the ROX RISERS and could try different handlebar height-position.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Panos69 on July 13, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
I got numb hands (more specifically "needles" in the palms) after about 2-3 hours of continuous riding yesterday...

This is an important issue and I got to deal with it the soonest possible... There is a significantly strong buzz in the handlebar.  :155:

I will start experimenting with the cheapest option first i.e. by adding rather heavy handlebar weights (200 gr) to see if this will make any difference.
Title: Got numb hands?
Post by: yiannis on July 13, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
*Originally Posted by Panos69 [+]
I got numb hands (more specifically "needles" in the palms) after about 2-3 hours of continuous riding yesterday...

This is an important issue and I got to deal with it the soonest possible... There is a significantly strong buzz in the handlebar.  :155:

I will start experimenting with the cheapest option first i.e. by adding rather heavy handlebar weights (200 gr) to see if this will make any difference.

Pano, you mentioned in another thread you're pretty tall. I would look into some risers first and rotating the bars a little. The trick is to find the position that is natural and doesn't put a lot of weight on your palms. Also a throttle rocker helps me for longer rides so I don't have to squeeze much.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Panos69 on July 13, 2011, 02:48:19 PM
Yanni, thank you for pointing this out!

I now have the handlebar in the "default" position.

Would it help (in my case) to reverse the risers as a first step? Will this bring the handlebar closer to me?
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: steve on July 13, 2011, 06:20:03 PM
dont know if handgaurds are your thing or not but after adding barkbuster handgaurds to mine the vibs stopped think its because thay bolt from the end of the bars back to near the middle
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: yiannis on July 13, 2011, 06:30:19 PM
*Originally Posted by Panos69 [+]
Yanni, thank you for pointing this out!

I now have the handlebar in the "default" position.

Would it help (in my case) to reverse the risers as a first step? Will this bring the handlebar closer to me?

You have the roadie, right? I'm not sure about that but on the XC reversing them brings them farther away but also higher. I don't think that's what you want. Try rotating them a little so they come towards you. That's what I did but I get some risers to compensate for the lower height. Bringing them closer should make you sit more upright and it might lift some weight of your hands. Just experiment with different positions. There are some lines on the inside of the handlebars so you can keep track where its position you try is.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Panos69 on July 13, 2011, 06:48:13 PM
*Originally Posted by steve [+]
dont know if handgaurds are your thing or not but after adding barkbuster handgaurds to mine the vibs stopped think its because thay bolt from the end of the bars back to near the middle

Yes, this could be the explanation. Just the little "reinforcement" of the handlebar structure due to the handguards frame or even just the increased weight could shift the resonance frequency and eliminate it for the entire range of engine revs.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Panos69 on July 13, 2011, 06:52:51 PM
*Originally Posted by yiannis [+]
You have the roadie, right? I'm not sure about that but on the XC reversing them brings them farther away but also higher. I don't think that's what you want. Try rotating them a little so they come towards you. That's what I did but I get some risers to compensate for the lower height. Bringing them closer should make you sit more upright and it might lift some weight of your hands. Just experiment with different positions. There are some lines on the inside of the handlebars so you can keep track where its position you try is.

I know what you mean but still I think it is a matter of vibrations not driving position... My hands are long enough so they are pretty relaxed. I even tried without my (rather heavy) backpack that could be affecting my position.

On the other hand, I am a little (or a lot I should say) hesitant to start working on the handlebar bolts... How can I ensure I did it all OK? I don't even have a torque wrench.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Jonny2001 on July 30, 2011, 03:13:22 AM
I've been taking some day trips the last couple of weekends and I've really been getting annoyed with the numbness so I decided to machine some bar end weights to see if they help. They each weigh 325g and are made of 304 stainless steel. I'll give them a good spin tomorrow and report back. I've seen people recommend filling the handle bars with birdshot so I might try that next if the weights don't work.

There's a product called the bar snake out there too, but since our bars don't have open ends I couldn't fit the normal product in (basically a long rigid vibration absorbing bar of resilient polymer) and I'm not willing to pour the liquid version down to have it harden in there and clog the tube forever in case it doesn't work.

Just from moving my hands around I'm convinced that it's a vibration issue because unclenching and changing my grasp doesn't work. I really have to take my hand off the grip for a few seconds to let the blood flow back in.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: PTInstructor on July 30, 2011, 02:01:22 PM
*Originally Posted by SeanD_Colorado [+]
My wife uses the Grab-on grip covers on her GS. She really likes them. She was complaining about some vibration problems on her bike, and they seemed to have solved it for her. They seem to work well with the heated grips.
http://www.grabongrips.com/motorcycle.php (http://www.grabongrips.com/motorcycle.php)

Sean D, great idea.  I knew of Grab-ons, but did not know they make covers.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: PTInstructor on July 30, 2011, 02:33:46 PM
One word:  KAOKO  (Made in South Africa)

My wife and I have used these on BMW R1200 GSs.  We have a combined mileage of 110,000 miles on our GSs  using Kaokos.  They are easy to install and virtually trouble free.  They work WITH the throttle, i.e., they rotate in the direction of the throttle.  So, you apply pressure like you are accelerating  and you release them as you would release the throttle.  Simple.  I would not have a motorcycle without them.  (dirt bike excluded)  About $100 US.

http://www.kaoko.com/pTIGXC/KAOKO-Cruise-Control-for-TRIUMPH-Tiger-800-and-Tiger-800-XC-for-use-with-or-without-OEM-Hand-Guards.aspx (http://www.kaoko.com/pTIGXC/KAOKO-Cruise-Control-for-TRIUMPH-Tiger-800-and-Tiger-800-XC-for-use-with-or-without-OEM-Hand-Guards.aspx)

My Tiger with a Kaoko and Touratech hand guards:  (Note:they fit the XC much better, but Kaoko is coming out with a "Roadie" type end piece)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc304/ptinstructor/Triumph%20Tiger/IMG_0497.jpg)

How they work:
Kaoko Cruise Control (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOGjRkGinDs#)
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Panos69 on July 30, 2011, 11:38:36 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonny2001 [+]
I've been taking some day trips the last couple of weekends and I've really been getting annoyed with the numbness so I decided to machine some bar end weights to see if they help. They each weigh 325g and are made of 304 stainless steel. I'll give them a good spin tomorrow and report back.

Please let us know! I am considering the same.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Jonny2001 on July 31, 2011, 12:04:46 AM
*Originally Posted by Panos69 [+]
Please let us know! I am considering the same.

So I went for a 200km ride averaging 110km/h on the highway and right out of my driveway I noticed a difference. At low speeds/revs I'd say the vibrations are almost gone. At highway speed there are still some coming through. It's a big improvement though. My hands were getting a bit tingly, but not "dead" numb as before. I also noticed that if I lower my elbows and shoulders and keep my wrist straight as opposed to bent downwards, I also improve circulation.

So all in all it's a big improvement, but I'll keep looking for a definitive solution.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Alchemist on July 31, 2011, 08:02:28 AM
*Originally Posted by PTInstructor [+]
One word:  KAOKO  (Made in South Africa)

Another vote for KAOKO - I've had them on my XC for a few weeks now and they provide much needed relief!
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Goerion on August 01, 2011, 10:24:02 PM
I would like to think it is from the gloves. In my case it's is the part between forefinger and thumb that must be flexible otherwise I have the numb feeling.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: racer 84s on August 02, 2011, 01:08:15 AM
Well, I put on the Rox Risers but still am getting numbness.Once someone thought the engine guards might have some connection to vibes,so when I was riding with about 6 on the tach I reached down and felt the engine guards and there was a high freq vibe coming thru the engine guards.I checked and nothing not tight.So what makes them vibe-motor mounts?Some of you young bucks should be able to figure this out.I have a Custom Storz Sportster also that doesn't put your hands to sleep but it does shake rattle and roll-truly a Milwaukee vibrator.The way you set a Tiger and the high freq vibe combined I suppose makes for numb hands -wish someone really could figure it out.It is sort of like the heating issue ,some legs are feeling cooked on the Tiger,some aren't-depends on what you wear and the numbness on how you set on the bike
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Drumster on August 02, 2011, 02:24:09 AM
*Originally Posted by racer 84s [+]
Well, I put on the Rox Risers but still am getting numbness.Once someone thought the engine guards might have some connection to vibes,so when I was riding with about 6 on the tach I reached down and felt the engine guards and there was a high freq vibe coming thru the engine guards.I checked and nothing not tight.So what makes them vibe-motor mounts?Some of you young bucks should be able to figure this out.I have a Custom Storz Sportster also that doesn't put your hands to sleep but it does shake rattle and roll-truly a Milwaukee vibrator.The way you set a Tiger and the high freq vibe combined I suppose makes for numb hands -wish someone really could figure it out.It is sort of like the heating issue ,some legs are feeling cooked on the Tiger,some aren't-depends on what you wear and the numbness on how you set on the bike

Did you mount the regular Rox Risers or the anti-vibration model?

http://www.happy-trail.com/Rox-Anti-Vibration-Risers-for-1-1/8-Handlebar-and-Stem.aspx (http://www.happy-trail.com/Rox-Anti-Vibration-Risers-for-1-1/8-Handlebar-and-Stem.aspx)

I would sure hope that these anti-vibe risers in combination with bar end weights or an internal bar "snake" would totally handle annoying vibes.  :084:


Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: farawayhats on August 02, 2011, 08:20:46 PM
I've fitted GRIP PUPPIES, I'll ride tomorrow, and let you know if it helps with my numb hand.
http://www.sportouring.com/gallery.php?sectionHeaderActive=1000&rangeChoosen=615 (http://www.sportouring.com/gallery.php?sectionHeaderActive=1000&rangeChoosen=615)
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: farawayhats on August 04, 2011, 08:19:08 PM
*Originally Posted by farawayhats [+]
I've fitted GRIP PUPPIES, I'll ride tomorrow, and let you know if it helps with my numb hand.
http://www.sportouring.com/gallery.php?sectionHeaderActive=1000&rangeChoosen=615 (http://www.sportouring.com/gallery.php?sectionHeaderActive=1000&rangeChoosen=615)
Nope, didn't help. In fact it was worse. So anyone want to try GRIP PUPPIES ? PM me your postal address (UK or Overseas) and I'll send them to you.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: TikTak on August 04, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
You got mail :156:
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: farawayhats on August 04, 2011, 09:50:18 PM
*Originally Posted by farawayhats [+]
Nope, didn't help. In fact it was worse. So anyone want to try GRIP PUPPIES ? PM me your postal address (UK or Overseas) and I'll send them to you.
Grip puppies are off to Holland. So the offer is now closed
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: CarlS on August 05, 2011, 03:10:36 PM
Yesterday, I rode with a person who had fitted BMW grips to his Roadie.  He said the grips were more comfortable and no vibration.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: fernandos1 on August 08, 2011, 09:17:10 PM
I have the same problem too. I call it "pins and needles". I don't think I have a death grip on the throttle but I will try to loosen up. How do you do that without losing control, though?
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Panos69 on September 03, 2011, 02:01:06 PM
I noticed very significant improvement of the handlebar buzzing issue right after the 1st oil change at 800 kms.

I know the oil was changed to fully synthetic but it is possible they also synced the throttle bodies.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: wendylea on December 18, 2012, 11:03:46 PM
 :190:  I've recently bought an 800, and also suffer numb hands. I hoped to cure this with the rox riser anti vibration, but to no avail. I've been recommeneded to try different shocks and was wondering if anybodycould advise, cheers..
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: OZtiger on December 18, 2012, 11:18:37 PM
I just use the cheapskate option of a cricket bat handle rubber grip and cut it to the length of the existing grip, then put a bit of soapy water on the grip and slide it over the existing grip.  Gives slightly larger grip, has good grip and not slippery and costs me about $9.00 every year or so.  Doesn't completely cure the vibes but I find it helps.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: hummech on December 19, 2012, 01:49:07 AM
i also had the same problem, i get it through out the day not just riding my bike. i too have carpletunnle so my doctor gave me a splint for my wrist which looks like a glove with a piece of flat steel on the bottom of it. when i ride with the splint on, i have no problems, no numbing, pins/needles or the burning feeling that i used to have,i am not sure if it is the twisting of the throttle causing it or weight on the bars but i could not ride the 15 miles to work with out having to stop. now i can ride for hours.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: jimmy60 on December 19, 2012, 02:32:08 AM
Crampbuster helped me out immensely!
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: doxbike on December 19, 2012, 02:39:47 PM
I wrapped a padded leather tennis raquet grip around each handgrip, then I use a crampbuster on both sides when I go on a ride of any length.  Helps a bunch.

FWIW, couldn't find any cricket bat handle covers in Laguna Beach :150:
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: captainjazz on December 19, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
I too had extreme numbness when I started riding the XC last year in April. Eventually went to GP and referred to neurologist to have electrical conductive tests performed Then had to have carpal tunnel release surgery to both wrists. No problems at all now. Very rare for men to have this surgery but glad I did of that would have been the end of my biking journey
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: rugby536 on September 11, 2016, 09:32:07 AM
I am no longer a member of the numb hand gang.

I have changed quite a few things all at the same time so not 100% sure if it was one or a combo of all that cured it. The changes made were

6,000 mile service
New handlebars (LSL XB3 Fatbar Touring)
New gloves (Knox Handroid)
New tyres (Pirelli Scorpion II instead of OEM Bridgestone)

If I had to place a bet I would say it was the handlebars or the service that cured it. The reason I say this is that the right hand mirror used to have more vibration than the left and it was my right hand that used to go numb.  Now both mirrors are clear.

I didn't notice a big difference in the smoothness of the engine after the service but it never felt rough or vibey before either.

The bars have more pull back which means my wrist is straighter than with the standard bars.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: K1W1 on September 11, 2016, 09:42:39 AM
Depending on the relative lengths of the fingers of your old and new gloves they may have had a significant effect.
If your fingers are touching the ends of the gloves when your hands are in the cupped position (i.e. like when you are holding onto the grip) it can cause numbness over the course of the ride. The tips of fingers have a huge number of nerve endings in them and even minute constant pressure from gloves can cause the numb feeling though the nerve endings.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: AKtiger on September 12, 2016, 04:13:18 AM
I changed out the hand guards as the OEM guards are crap. Put on a set of Barkbusters with the bar end weights as I too was getting some vibration. Set of risers and no more problem even on two back to back 500 mile days numb free.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: av8or on September 12, 2016, 04:33:33 AM
There is no doubt that some of you may be experiencing numbness however it may be from gripping too tight and not necessarily the handlebars.   :172:
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: K1W1 on September 12, 2016, 06:09:02 AM
*Originally Posted by av8or [+]
There is no doubt that some of you may be experiencing numbness however it may be from gripping too tight and not necessarily the handlebars.   :172:

Unlikely. I have had numbness in the right hand on both Tigers I have owned and never had it on any previous bike I have owned since 1972. In my case Grip Puppies solved the problem.
I think the diameter of the grips is a little small which causes hands to be more clenched than normal and the glove issue I mentioned above then comes into play.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: CheesyWotsit on September 12, 2016, 07:18:32 AM
+1 for grip puppies.
Don't know if they'll cure all evils, but they're very comfortable.

You can't ride a thunderbolt without getting burned!

Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: dodd on September 12, 2016, 09:45:09 AM
I have grip puppies on too - I think they made a difference for comfort
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: av8or on September 12, 2016, 10:22:35 AM
I suspect that I'm at the top end of the age group on the forum and 2 weeks ago rode my XCA for 7 hours straight without any numbness in the hands. A little soreness and cramping in the throttle hand but then relaxed my grip and problem went away.
The Tiger is a very smooth machine vibration wise so I suspect most of your problems lie elsewhere.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: darthvall on June 22, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
Wanted to add my own experiences of the topic of this old thread. I bought a 2012 800 XC a month ago and noticed the vibrations the day after I took it home from the dealer. For me it it's on the left side of the bar. Riding was ok but I got numbness in my fingertips several days after each ride.

I've done a few things to tackle this and I am no longer bothered by the vibes. First I put a grip puppie on the left grip and that was a noticeable improvement. I then bought palm savers, neoprene palm coves you wear under your gloves, and that was a slight further improvement. After this I tried some random aftermarket bar end weights but couldn't get them to fit properly. Researching this I found that Barkbusters are the only brand that make handguards that can be coupled with weights, so I bought a pare of those. This turned out a big let down as they were expensive and did nothing to improve the issue.

Finally I got the anti-vibration Rox Risers. This is what finally cured the vibes for me. I asked a mechanic to put them on and after he had done so he showed me that you can loosen the nut connected to the bolts on the side of the risers that hold the rubber that dampens the vibes. I run with these nuts quite loose. I still notice the vibes between 3000 and 4000 rpm but they no longer render any numbness. Ditto for above 6000 rpm.

In conclusion, my recommendation is to get grip puppies and anti-vibe Rox risers. You might also get some palm savers as they only cost around 5€. Fair warning though when you buy the risers - buy the right size! I made a mistake there as the one that is both for regular and fat bars is the only one available here in Sweden. The expander that makes it interchangeable has a small peg that has to be filed away in order to fit on the lower part of the riser that attach to the XC steering clamps. This isn't hard but it renders the warranty void on the item.

That's all, I hope this was useful to someone. Other than the vibes, I find the Tiger to be a great bike and I am sure it will bring me lots of joy now that I got the issue sorted.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: chico on June 23, 2017, 05:10:47 AM
I solved the numbing problem by trading my 2011 Tiger 800R for the 2017 XRX. I now have cruise control, What a pleasure!

Chico
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: digger06 on June 23, 2017, 09:53:06 AM
i find my 2012 xc ok, my previous bike (zrx1200) gave me a numb right hand,
partially cured by balancing the carbs, weighting the mirrors (inside) then silicone filling the bars, almost killed the vibes, but not quite, which i expected as my right hand has suffered this for quite a long time ... usually when i dont use the bike regularly,

tried various things through the years, main things that worked were:
gloves, too tight and you lose slight circulation, if the are tight with a clenched fist i find they are too tight.this simple thing cured my problem by about 30%
choice of tyres on adventure bikes, im running trial attacks, much smoother than more off road patterns.
silicone (or similar ) filler in the bars, works quite well if possible to do.
before buying expensive risers, try a slight change in handlebar position, worked for my mate, (can stop back/seating/fairing turbulence  probs too) .
grip puppys, i had these, thought they worked but once removed, just felt the same, so im not so convinced with these (on my bike )
main thing,check round everything, and nip it all up,then a good service and balance, wouldnt take it to a shop, do mine myself, and often get it a lot nearer than a shop , (time is money in a shop)..
all of them work in their own way, depends, i suppose, on the vibration frequency...

Title: Numb Hands suggestion
Post by: TDU on January 01, 2019, 08:11:12 AM
Evening all and Happy New Year

I recently purchased a 2018 XRx and on a 300km ride today I experienced numbness and tingling in both hands when I stopped for a break.

My solution I will be trying this week is the same I have done to every bike ive owned... that is to remove the handle bars and pump them full with silicone rubber.

I will keep you updated later in the week... 🤔
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: coddy on January 01, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
I haven't read this thread through but I'm sure some people will have recommended grip puppies. I can categorically say they helped me no end with numb hands and they are so cheap and easy to fit.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: troop on January 01, 2019, 02:02:26 PM
I am currently using Grab On grip covers and they work well. I am about to a order some Grip Buddies Lites to get better results from my heated grips.
https://shop.originalbeemerbuddies.com/SMARTSKIN-OGB-CA-SS-OGB-CA-SS.htm
Title: Re: Numb Hands suggestion
Post by: KildareMan on January 01, 2019, 04:24:41 PM
*Originally Posted by TDU [+]
Evening all and Happy New Year

I recently purchased a 2018 XRx and on a 300km ride today I experienced numbness and tingling in both hands when I stopped for a break.

My solution I will be trying this week is the same I have done to every bike ive owned... that is to remove the handle bars and pump them full with silicone rubber.

I will keep you updated later in the week... 🤔
If you have triumph heated grips not a good idea as wires run through bars.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: chico on January 01, 2019, 05:15:48 PM
I've noticed that I get numbness depending on which gloves I wear. Some are too snug and contribute to the issue by restricting blood flow.

Chico
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: TDU on January 01, 2019, 06:39:06 PM
Ok... that could be a bit of a problem.. I do have Triumph heated grips...

Need to check the extent of where the wires go.

Thanks for the advice..  :158:

Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: coddy on January 02, 2019, 03:31:21 PM
I may be wrong but doesn't it just mean heated grips with grip puppies just take a bit longer to heat up with no other problems?
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: petesear on January 02, 2019, 03:38:04 PM
With the puppies my standard Triumph grips don't really get too hot, Oxford grips get a lot hotter!
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: troop on January 03, 2019, 03:59:47 PM
Grip Buddies Lites about 1/2 thickness as regular ones..
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/OGB%20Review-Pub%20Version%20(1).pdf
https://www.k1600forum.com/forum/2370482-post1.html
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Dick on January 03, 2019, 06:28:42 PM
If you have a low seat & raisers will not help!
Title: Numb Hands and Heated Grips
Post by: TDU on January 09, 2019, 07:29:45 AM
So...

I decided to take off the handlebars and check them out on my new XRx

Yes = the handlebars do have wires running through them.. (sorry had to check for myself  :169:)

I am still contemplating how to fill them with silicone if this is an option.

Does anyone know how to remove the grips and wires ?

I see that the wires run through the bars and out a small hole in the left hand side bottom

Any idea how to dismantle these things ?

Thanks

Marc
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: ColinXCX on January 09, 2019, 08:40:41 AM
You can download the fitting instructions for the grips from the Triumph website, just reverse the procedure. You should have the grips off in under 15 mins.
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: ColinXCX on January 09, 2019, 08:52:59 AM
A link...

https://www.triumphinstructions.com/proddocs/a9638058-en.pdf
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: ColinXCX on January 09, 2019, 08:54:57 AM
The fly by wire grips

https://www.triumphinstructions.com/ProdDocs/A9638170-EN.pdf
Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: TDU on January 09, 2019, 11:04:58 AM
Thanks Colin appreciate the link..

Something else I'm looking into is an adjustable cross bar.

This is a cheap item to buy off ebay.

Title: Re: Got numb hands?
Post by: Tenequip on January 10, 2019, 12:29:51 AM
Haven’t had problems with num hands, but have installed foam rubber slip-on grips, because I have large hands and was experiencing hand cramps with the small diameter grips. The slip on grips eliminated the cramps and may help you with your problems.