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Title: Short riders
Post by: Deb on February 10, 2019, 10:57:26 PM
Im new here i really want to buy the tiger 800 but im only 5 4 with 27 inseam will i be able to make it work for ,any info wold be great thanks
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: walt on February 10, 2019, 11:00:42 PM
if it helps, i'm 5ft 7ins, I have the low seat and 15mm lowering links, I can flat foot both feet easily, however, if you didn't already know, there is a low version, which is much lower to start with as standard....I think you can lower to max 25mm...I used these links, give you a choice of 4 different heights


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Tiger-800-all-models-four-length-lowering-links-kit/253478033997?epid=3010973141&hash=item3b0477da4d:g:UyMAAMXQobdQ7~Ri:rk:3:pf:0


Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Deb on February 10, 2019, 11:06:00 PM
did you lose comfort in the seat with the lower one ? and which model do you have ?
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: walt on February 10, 2019, 11:09:55 PM
I have 2018 XR, and yes tbh the low seat is a bit harder, but not too bad, rode from UK to Switzerland without too much trouble, you could always get the oem seat redone, its softer, but I reckon you could still lose 30mm out of it without compromising comfort if you are not so heavy I may go this route at some point...
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Deb on February 10, 2019, 11:21:58 PM
thank you for your input . Do you know if there is a difference in height in the XCA
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: walt on February 10, 2019, 11:30:37 PM
seat to peg relationship is the same afaik, but obviously with a 21ins front wheel the XC variants will be taller, check out seat heights on Triumph website

the XCA seat height is 840 to 860mm

The XR is 810 to 830mm


XR LOW is 760 to 780mm

that's seat in low/hi positions

.
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Stevie.P on February 10, 2019, 11:32:46 PM
As standard (Triumph specs) the XC seat is listed as 3cm higher than the XR versions.
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Deb on February 10, 2019, 11:37:15 PM
thats a big difference with the low version , and yes that is so true we get old when we stop playing thats why its time for me to get a tiger an play
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Deb on February 10, 2019, 11:40:15 PM
im going to the dealer tomorrow and hoping i can touch , im ok with just my toes touching
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: walt on February 10, 2019, 11:40:40 PM
I met a girl riding an XR low in Germany, she was 5ft 5ins, she was ok with the seat in the higher position.. :028: the XR is still ok for mild off road.....

i'm more confident with feet closer tto the ground...
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Deb on February 10, 2019, 11:43:10 PM
kind of have my heart set on the XCA but i may not have much of a choice
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Stevie.P on February 11, 2019, 12:03:21 AM
*Originally Posted by Deb [+]
kind of have my heart set on the XCA but i may not have much of a choice

Possibly worth a thought, I'm sure others have reported similar.  :084:

My experience of acquiring my XRt (and based on riding the demo XRx) was that I initially needed the seat on the lower setting to get the balls of both feet on the ground and feel secure. The actual look of having the rider seat lower than the passenger one didn't do it for me visually, so thankfully I actually found that after about a week (nearly 700 miles) of allowing everything to settle etc. I was able to raise the seat to the higher position. Now after 2yrs, although the seat doesn't appear flattened in any way I can flat foot both feet no problem when stopped.  :028:

So if you feel safe on tip toes with the XCa seat in lower position then possibly after a few weeks you will be able to feel much more secure.  :002:
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Deb on February 11, 2019, 12:11:41 AM
no i would not like the look of the rider being higher than the passenger either . i wish i could go for a test ride on one but i live in Canada and we have lots of snow and cold weather
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Stevie.P on February 11, 2019, 12:29:49 AM
*Originally Posted by Deb [+]
no i would not like the look of the rider being higher than the passenger either .

:110: no, other way around.  :001:

*Originally Posted by Stevie.P [+]
The actual look of having the rider seat lower than the passenger one didn't do it for me visually,

The passenger will be higher than the rider with the rider seat in either position, normal or low. I didn't like the visual aspect of the rider seat being lower, the step to the passenger seat just looked odd (IMO).
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: Tiggerton on February 11, 2019, 07:33:23 PM
I have the XRT with Luss Racing lowering (40mm) links. Fitting the seat in the lower position gives a seat height of 770 mm. Daytona Mstar GTX boots will give you 25 mm extra height, but only go to 43mm foot size.

The only downside is you need a wooden block under the tyre to get the thing on centre stand. I can flat foot with my short 26.5 inch welsh legs.

Regards
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: herdygerdy on February 11, 2019, 08:44:07 PM
Hi Deb,

Good on you for wanting to choose the Tiger.  I'm 5' 6" with a 28" in seam and on the first ride of the demo' standard height XRT, I was a bit worried about the seat height.

After researching the XRT LRH (Low Ride Height) model, I found it comes with either 780mm / 31" (seat in high position) or, better yet for us shorties, 760 mm / 30" (seat in the low position).

https://www.triumphmotorcycles.com.au/bikes/adventure-and-touring/tiger/2018/800/variants/tiger-800-xrx-low#specification.

Bear in mind there are a few street bikes in the Triumph range that also come with the low 760 mm seat height as standard, not just Tigers, so to get a feel for your comfort level, maybe test ride another model in the range. 

It is unlikely for a dealer to have a LRH Tiger on the floor as a demo' model.  I only got to sit on a LRH XRT because the dealer had sold one and it was awaiting collection by the new owner.

If you have your heart set on an XCA (the top of the range 'Cross Country' with "all the fruit", then that could be a problem as the seat heights on those can be either 860mm / 34"  (seat in high position) or 840mm / 33" (seat in low position).

However, if you don't actually need 'all the fruit' of the XCA (with heated pillion and rider seats, factory driving lights, and some other doo-dads), then there is the Tiger XCX LRH model.  It has seat height options of 810mm / 32" (seat in normal position) or 790mm / 31" (seat in low position).

The XCX LRH still comes with the nice White Power front and rear suspension of the standard height XC range.

https://www.triumphmotorcycles.com.au/bikes/adventure-and-touring/tiger/2018/tiger-800/variants/tiger-800-xcx-low#specification

I was sold on the XRT after riding it only about 50 metres!  But I was quite concerned about the seat height. 

Another thing that tipped my decision in favour of the standard height XRT is that during my research on here and other places, I discovered the factory recommended maximum load capacity of both LRH (XR and XC) models is considerably reduced, compared to the standard height models.  If you are considering doing a lot of two up riding with luggage, this needs to be considered.

After sitting on a LRH XRT in the dealer's showroom, I figured I could most likely get to live with the standard height model.  So I ended up buying the actual demo' '17 Gen 2 Tiger I test rode.  It's a decision I now definitely do NOT regret one little bit and have got really quite comfortable on it, especially now it has 'settled into it's suspenders'.  Love this great bike more and more each and every time I ride it.

Good luck with your decision Deb and keep us posted on your final selection and why.  Enjoy the journey and learning experience.

Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: ColinXCX on February 11, 2019, 09:07:55 PM
My 2017 XCX is the low ride height version, I have the seat in the low position and can flat foot both feet. I'm 5'8" with a 30" inseam.
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: 3bangin on February 12, 2019, 03:41:22 AM
My wife is also named Deb, she also rides a 2014 tiger 800. Roadie. She's 5'-3"
I lowered the bike 1/2" front and back.
She also has a 16' t120.
Soupy's lowering links can be a game changer.
Bob
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: TAStiger on February 21, 2019, 01:21:08 AM
 :401: Hi Deb I'm not the tallest got a 2018 xrt  20mm lowering link lower forks 15mm  and a spacer washer in sidestand  all good having a ball on her  not sure how you go on a C but you never know if you dont give it a go

good luck from tassy aus
mk
 
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: StretchToo on February 21, 2019, 08:34:06 AM
If it's the off road ability you're after note that one of these guys won the race on the roadie version. A 19" front wheel isn't bad off road with the right tyres.
https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/the-longest-day-how-two-americans-conquered-canada-in-17-hours
Title: Re: Short riders
Post by: StewartG on February 22, 2019, 10:03:16 AM
Hi My trouser length is 27.5 inches and I manage with the help of my Daytona boots which have a thick soul and a stacked heal. They ain't cheap but they last along time. Cheers Stewart