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Title: 1000 a service!!
Post by: mikegml on October 14, 2019, 09:32:31 PM
Got a mate with a 1200 explorer.  He's been quoted 1000 near enough for a 20k service down in his area (Bath).  Told him about the new Triumph dealer here in Watford so he enquired there.  same price 940!

Totally nuts. (excluding coolant and other fluids if needed)
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: ColinXCX on October 14, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
 :156: :232: :211: service prices are getting obscene.....
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: UncleGary on October 15, 2019, 12:44:20 AM
it would be interesting to know what the dealer is going to do for that fat fee. Is the Explorer that badly built that there is all sort of repair work expected? Doing the routine service on my 800 couldn't approach that kind of fee.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: mikegml on October 15, 2019, 07:13:54 AM
Job Notes: 20000 MILE SERVICE EXPLORER

Mileage: : Brake Fluid And Coolant Parts Will Be Added If Needed

SKU/Product Code Product Description Unit Qty Disc% Total V
CAS001 CASTROL POWER 1 RACING 10w40 10.75 4.00 0.00 43.00 A
CON001 CONSUMABLE ITEMS 4.95 1.00 0.00 4.95 A
ENV001 ENVIRONMENT CHARGE 4.50 1.00 0.00 4.50 A
CDW001 AIG Collision damage waiver 12.50 1.00 0.00 12.50 A

t3990016 V SERIES ENGINE SERVICE KIT 118.99 1.00 0.00 118.99 A
Parts Total: 183.94

SR RETAIL 75.00 5.5000 412.50 A
SR VAVLE CLEARANCE 75.00 1.5000 112.50 A
SR BRAKE AND COOLANT 75.00 1 75.00 A

Labour Total: 600.00
Nett Total : 783.94
V.A.T. : 156.79
Total : 940.73

Paid : 0.00
Owing : 940.73
V Rate V.A.T. Services/Goods
156.79 783.94
0.00 0.00
0.00 0.00
0.00 0.00
20.00%
0.00%
0.00%
5.00%
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Oldfart on October 15, 2019, 07:27:54 AM
>> CDW001 AIG Collision damage waiver 12.50 1.00 0.00 12.50 A

Please tell me I'm wrong, but is the customer expected to pay for their insurance?

Oldfart
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Paulhere on October 15, 2019, 07:37:23 AM
940.73!!! And that doesn't include any valve shim, coolant or brake fluid changes if I read that right, & why not? It could easily have come to 1150 at that rate.

600 labour? I wonder what time it was dropped off & collected. 100/hour?
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: gordybrock on October 15, 2019, 08:18:12 AM
Clearly a rip-off from a dishonest dealer...should've booked Mr. MuddySump
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Paulhere on October 15, 2019, 08:44:00 AM
London prices eh  :005: Been there, never again, awful place.  :110:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Rtwo on October 15, 2019, 09:13:16 AM
Learn to DIY it would be my advice

Major servicing is a great and rewarding task over a cold and wet winter weekend
Minor stuff can easily be done as you go
You learn an awful lot about your bike and it gets much better care and attention than any dealer will ever give it
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: gordybrock on October 15, 2019, 10:08:43 AM
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
London prices eh  :005: Been there, never again, awful place.  :110:
  :0461: :493: It's a sh*t-hole
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: gordybrock on October 15, 2019, 10:11:56 AM
*Originally Posted by Rtwo [+]
Learn to DIY it would be my advice

Major servicing is a great and rewarding task over a cold and wet winter weekend
Minor stuff can easily be done as you go
You learn an awful lot about your bike and it gets much better care and attention than any dealer will ever give it
  :0461: :460: I do my own servicing...saved a fortune and best of all I know it's been done...properly.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Stevie.P on October 15, 2019, 11:49:56 AM
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
600 labour? I wonder what time it was dropped off & collected. 100/hour?

If you look at the SR items it shows hourly rate at net 75/hr and official times, the total being 8hrs. Then of course the parts and to compound the pain the extra 20% VAT levy . so you're not far off at labour gross 90/hr. :172:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: mikegml on October 15, 2019, 11:53:52 AM
It's a quote. It's from a proper Triumph dealer which I've used (I didn't want to show the quote including branch and names etc) and it's the same price as another quote from another pukka Triumph dealer from Bath which unlike London is not a sh**hole.  It obviously includes valves.  God knows what sort of valves it's got that it needs that much labour.

There must be others here that have had 20k services done inc' valves, how much did you pay?
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Stevie.P on October 15, 2019, 11:58:25 AM
*Originally Posted by gordybrock [+]
Clearly a rip-off from a dishonest dealer...should've booked Mr. MuddySump

*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
London prices eh  :005: Been there, never again, awful place.  :110:

AIUI Triumph set the labour times for standard service and repair items but obviously not the dealers labour rate and I'm actually surprised that it was so low for London. I haven't been to my Plymouth dealer in over a year but back then it was 66/hr (not sure if before VAT) so not much lower out of London and wages here are certainly lower than London. An average wage here isn't much above the minimum wage.  :027:

Agree, DIY if confident or seek independant mechanic.  :028:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Londonglide on October 16, 2019, 07:09:37 AM
*Originally Posted by gordybrock [+]
  :0461: :493: It's a sh*t-hole

I resemble that remark......
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Paulhere on October 16, 2019, 08:14:39 AM
*Originally Posted by Stevie.P [+]
AIUI Triumph set the labour times for standard service and repair items but obviously not the dealers labour rate and I'm actually surprised that it was so low for London. I haven't been to my Plymouth dealer in over a year but back then it was 66/hr (not sure if before VAT) so not much lower out of London and wages here are certainly lower than London. An average wage here isn't much above the minimum wage.  :027:

Agree, DIY if confident or seek independant mechanic.  :028:

Is that you saying the 1,000 service is ok for London folk? :017: Well I s'pose they do get paid a gudly bit more than us hillbilly types and if their beer & property is owt to go off then everything else should be 50% more.  :164:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Dilbert on October 16, 2019, 12:15:41 PM
Mine was around 650, but at Staffordshire Triumph, not an expensive southern dealer, looks like London pricing going on there  :028:

Of course it depends on what's being done, the 20,000miles is a big service, most dealers quote assuming they're going to have to adjust tappets and then there's extras like brake pads, tyres, etc, at least he doesn't have to worry about new chains and sprockets  :038:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Stevie.P on October 16, 2019, 12:17:10 PM
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
Is that you saying the 1,000 service is ok for London folk?

Where do I say 1000 is ok for anyone. :110: I simply related that given how much it appears we outside the London bubble are also paying our dealers per/hr then the generally accepted higher cost of living in London (and higher wages) doesn't make that London rate appear such a 'rip off' (IMO).
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Djairouks on October 16, 2019, 12:51:34 PM
Must say I'm for once happy to live in Switzerland (doesn't happen often), if I do the exchange rate on what the dealer told me it would cost for a big service, it would be 350-400 and as a comparison my big service of my now departed Honda, cost me 511 and about less than half this was for parts.

So yeah you Brits seem to be paying for "lube" if you know what I mean  :492: hopefully my dealership was not bulshiting me with these prices, future will tell !
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Dilbert on October 16, 2019, 12:59:33 PM
*Originally Posted by mikegml [+]
God knows what sort of valves it's got that it needs that much labour.

Worth noting that they check the valves and if even one is out then they have to take the camshaft out to re-shim, as it's such a big engine shoe-horned into the frame it's easier to take the engine out to strip the top end down to do it, that's why they're so expensive  :028:

I worked it out, based on 40,000 miles it works out roughly the same cost, 2 major and two minor services on the 1200, 3 major and 3-4 minor services on the 800 + at least two chain sets  :017:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Turbotom on October 16, 2019, 03:04:36 PM
*Originally Posted by Rtwo [+]
Learn to DIY it would be my advice

Major servicing is a great and rewarding task over a cold and wet winter weekend
Minor stuff can easily be done as you go
You learn an awful lot about your bike and it gets much better care and attention than any dealer will ever give it

 :493:   :031:

Tom
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: tommyt on October 17, 2019, 01:06:00 AM
Unfortunately Triumph seem to be heading down a route that was started by BMW. That is "if you can afford one of our vehicles then you must be able to afford our servicing costs otherwise you're not really rich enough to own one of our vehicles." This is virtually what I was told years ago at a BMW dealer and I haven't bought one of their bikes since!

When word gets around that these costs are verging on the ridiculous, the used value of these bikes will eventually plummet and who would then buy a new one?

Whilst we're all getting older, the number of people riding bikes in the UK is apparently falling. You don't have to be an economist to work out where the industry is heading.

As ever, I stand to be corrected!

TT
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: fac191 on October 17, 2019, 07:45:35 AM
One of the reasons i bought a Super Tenere. As mentioned Trimoto are much better on prices. I dont get it.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Djairouks on October 17, 2019, 08:01:27 AM
*Originally Posted by tommyt [+]
Unfortunately Triumph seem to be heading down a route that was started by BMW. That is "if you can afford one of our vehicles then you must be able to afford our servicing costs otherwise you're not really rich enough to own one of our vehicles." This is virtually what I was told years ago at a BMW dealer and I haven't bought one of their bikes since!

When word gets around that these costs are verging on the ridiculous, the used value of these bikes will eventually plummet and who would then buy a new one?

Whilst we're all getting older, the number of people riding bikes in the UK is apparently falling. You don't have to be an economist to work out where the industry is heading.

As ever, I stand to be corrected!

TT

It is very much country dependant, because in Switzerland I have 2 friends who bought 1200GS (25'000CHF, 19'725), the first service is 1000Chf, which in pounds is 789 for just oil, filter and some checklist... you can then imagine when they need to do a valve check, must be worth a spleen on the black market !
Let's not even talk about the horror stories of BMW shafts exploding I've heard, electronic suspension not working and most mundane thing that my friends experienced a freaking cable problem and still today a year later, their GPS will not navigate correctly.
For the price of the motorcycles, that to me is really indecent and the mecanics they have don't even look like they care much !

On our Tiger you have the 12V socket, standard like on most bikes, you buy 15Chf cable plug it in and voila, you can charge your phone or GPS no biggie. The BMW cable is special because if you don't buy from them, the motorcycle does not recognize it's plugged and does not switch the 12V on the socket... of course the cable from BMW cost around 50Chf, so around 40 and everything is like this with BMWs, so I still think Triumph is not so bad.

My Honda dealership would  have pretty steep prices, when I asked for a 12V socket or steel brake lines install, which motivated me to do things myself, but honestly it seems Honda is right there behind BMW, KTM and Ducati, they aren't so cheap.
My Yamaha mechanic has such low prices, I honestly wonder how he survives but he's a family friend, so I might also have a discount, I do not know for sure !
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Paulhere on October 17, 2019, 11:42:39 AM
*Originally Posted by mikegml [+]
Job Notes: 20000 MILE SERVICE EXPLORER

Mileage: : Brake Fluid And Coolant Parts Will Be Added If Needed

SKU/Product Code Product Description Unit Qty Disc% Total V
CAS001 CASTROL POWER 1 RACING 10w40 10.75 4.00 0.00 43.00 A
CON001 CONSUMABLE ITEMS 4.95 1.00 0.00 4.95 A
ENV001 ENVIRONMENT CHARGE 4.50 1.00 0.00 4.50 A
CDW001 AIG Collision damage waiver 12.50 1.00 0.00 12.50 A

t3990016 V SERIES ENGINE SERVICE KIT 118.99 1.00 0.00 118.99 A
Parts Total: 183.94

SR RETAIL 75.00 5.5000 412.50 A
SR VAVLE CLEARANCE 75.00 1.5000 112.50 A
SR BRAKE AND COOLANT 75.00 1 75.00 A

Labour Total: 600.00
Nett Total : 783.94
V.A.T. : 156.79
Total : 940.73

Having a proper look at this now, can't tell if that price includes changing brake fluid & coolant as 8 hours charged not the 8.75hrs as listed, & there is no charge listed for either of the fluids. I'm assuming the 4.95 consumable items is the usual charge for bits of sealant, grease, cleaning & chain lube, etc.

The engine service kit at 118.99 is a lot cheaper than ours at 170.89! see link below. Then the 4L oil, consum, env, coll waiver = 64.95 + 20% vat = 77.94
Brake fluid 0.5L 5.40 + 2.5 L of coolant @ 7.5/L inc vat = 24.15
That's 270.98 in parts & fluids before labour charges. Say 4 shims & we're up to 295.
Then the labour cost at approx. 8 hours if they do all the work on the service sheet at northern 's of say 60/hr+vat 72 x 8 576 Total 871 for a full 12k mile service on our Tiger 800's. This can't be right surely? Imagine if a couple of tyres were needed, chain kit and brake pads, it could easily be double :156: Feel free to correct any errors.

https://www.worldoftriumph.com/partscatalog/catalog/listing/catalog/triumphmc/modelid/560047/block/100069460-0-2/

Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Stevie.P on October 17, 2019, 12:09:37 PM
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
... as 8 hours charged not the 8.75hrs as listed

Feel free to correct any errors.

*Originally Posted by mikegml [+]
SR RETAIL 75.00 5.5000 412.50 A
SR VAVLE CLEARANCE 75.00 1.5000 112.50 A
SR BRAKE AND COOLANT 75.00 1 75.00 A

You have mis-read the numbers.  :038:

Service retail  - 75/hr - 5.5hrs - 412.50
Service valve  - 75/hr - 1.5hrs - 112.50
Service B & C - 75/hr - 1.0hrs  - 75.00
                                    --------   ---------
                       Labour    8.0hrs    600

No idea where the coolant and brake fluid costs where covered ... certainly wouldn't have been complimentary.  :027:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Lopez on October 17, 2019, 12:17:21 PM
*Originally Posted by Djairouks [+]
Must say I'm for once happy to live in Switzerland (doesn't happen often), if I do the exchange rate on what the dealer told me it would cost for a big service, it would be 350-400 and as a comparison my big service of my now departed Honda, cost me 511 and about less than half this was for parts.

So yeah you Brits seem to be paying for "lube" if you know what I mean  :492: hopefully my dealership was not bulshiting me with these prices, future will tell !

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/RpYAyBI.png)

About 350 GBP the 'big service' in Spain. But don't forget our service is every 10.000km, and miles-use-countries are every 6000miles (9600), so we have even cheaper maintenance, as we are "earning" 500km  :062:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Paulhere on October 17, 2019, 12:53:52 PM
*Originally Posted by Stevie.P [+]
You have mis-read the numbers.  :038:

Service retail  - 75/hr - 5.5hrs - 412.50
Service valve  - 75/hr - 1.5hrs - 112.50
Service B & C - 75/hr - 1.0hrs  - 75.00
                                    --------   ---------
                       Labour    8.0hrs    600

No idea where the coolant and brake fluid costs where covered ... certainly wouldn't have been complimentary.  :027:

Well spotted that man, Yes I'd read the B&C at 1.75 hrs Need a trip to Specsavers. They likely wouldn't do it so don't charge for the fluids. Ha

Doesn't alter the total cost I calculated for a T800 though, does it?
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Paulhere on October 17, 2019, 01:00:44 PM
*Originally Posted by Lopez [+]
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/RpYAyBI.png)

About 350 GBP the 'big service' in Spain. But don't forget our service is every 10.000km, and miles-use-countries are every 6000miles (9600), so we have even cheaper maintenance, as we are "earning" 500km  :062:

Looking at the cost you quote there for the 20k km (12k mile) service, it doesn't leave much for labour after all the service kit & fluids costs are taken out. Or is that just the labour cost, then they add the cost of the parts & fluids used? They surely can't do a 8 hour job for 100 or so in labour? I'm assuming the parts & fluids are similar price over there.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Djairouks on October 17, 2019, 01:05:09 PM
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
Looking at the cost you quote there for the 20k km (12k mile) service, it doesn't leave much for labour after all the service kit & fluids costs are taken out. Or is that just the labour cost, then they add the cost of the parts & fluids used? They surely can't do a 8 hour job for 100 or so in labour? I'm assuming the parts & fluids are similar price over there.

That's full price as I've been told, corresponds to what my Swiss dealer said 450Chf for a full valve service, but can't confirm as I have 16'000Km to go to be certain he didn't exagerate  :188:.
Apparently they do it faster than 8h, even my Honda mechanics on the AT took 4h, having to strip much more fairings and stuff than on the tiger, 8h seem rather extreme to me.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Paulhere on October 17, 2019, 01:30:18 PM
*Originally Posted by Djairouks [+]
That's full price as I've been told, corresponds to what my Swiss dealer said 450Chf for a full valve service, but can't confirm as I have 16'000Km to go to be certain he didn't exagerate  :188:.
Apparently they do it faster than 8h, even my Honda mechanics on the AT took 4h, having to strip much more fairings and stuff than on the tiger, 8h seem rather extreme to me.

I was talking to Lopez.

I have had Muddy Sump Dave do the full 12k service inc shim changes & all fluids, started 9am, finished 4.30 pm. He is quick & thorough, everything is done to the service schedule as I'm sure many others on the forum can vouch for his work & speed. He just does servicing, same thing day in day out, I very much doubt anybody could match him. Let alone do it in half the time. :008:

Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Lopez on October 17, 2019, 01:46:51 PM
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
Looking at the cost you quote there for the 20k km (12k mile) service, it doesn't leave much for labour after all the service kit & fluids costs are taken out. Or is that just the labour cost, then they add the cost of the parts & fluids used? They surely can't do a 8 hour job for 100 or so in labour? I'm assuming the parts & fluids are similar price over there.

Full price... Obviously, if they have to change brake pads, i.e., they will charge it. Usually I get a 20% discount on that price, because it's my 2nd Triumph, I ride a lot and I have some "audience" on my trip's videos.

And it's not a 8h labour... I usually leave the bike at 9:00 am and they send me a whatsapp when it's finished, about 5 hours later. And washing the bike is included.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Djairouks on October 17, 2019, 01:56:10 PM
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
I was talking to Lopez.

I have had Muddy Sump Dave do the full 12k service inc shim changes & all fluids, started 9am, finished 4.30 pm. He is quick & thorough, everything is done to the service schedule as I'm sure many others on the forum can vouch for his work & speed. He just does servicing, same thing day in day out, I very much doubt anybody could match him. Let alone do it in half the time. :008:

Me and Lopez have the same price grid, that's why I replied as well, they'll take the time needed I don't know your guy and didn't give any number I talked generally unless you have a V-tec cam, it will not take 8h to a skilled mecanic, you should chill mate information from Spain or Switzerland, is the same and both relevant.

Most are definitely being ripped off in England, that's really bad, hoping Triumph will talk some sense in their dealers, it's in their interest especially shocking being in the manufacturer country !
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Paulhere on October 17, 2019, 03:16:05 PM
Brill, I have also used main dealers for service work in years gone by. Dropped off at 9.30am for a 12k mile service, bike is sat outside at 2pm. Marvellous. Dribbles of oil and the odd blob of grease to show it's been done. Ha, in yer dreams. On the good side, you get a stamp in your book.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Stevie.P on October 17, 2019, 04:34:53 PM
*Originally Posted by Djairouks [+]
Most are definitely being ripped off in England, that's really bad, hoping Triumph will talk some sense in their dealers, it's in their interest especially shocking being in the manufacturer country !

Why do you think Triumph UK 'will talk some sense in their dealers'? .... as said a while back, these service schedules and standard times (excluding extra work arising) are set by Triumph UK and the dealers pretty much abide by them. The fact that it is laid down by Triumph covers the dealer when an owner questons the time taken and price. The hourly labour rate variation is regional based on location of premises and its rent, rates, wages and other overheads.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: D6864 on October 17, 2019, 04:44:38 PM
It seems that the answer to the frequently asked question 'should I have my bike serviced before my European tour?' is to have your bike serviced during your European tour!
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Djairouks on October 17, 2019, 04:50:35 PM
*Originally Posted by D6864 [+]
It seems that the answer to the frequently asked question 'should I have my bike serviced before my European tour?' is to have your bike serviced during your European tour!
Indeed, because looking at all the prices, oil costs twice what I'm billed for 4l, coolant also more expensive and I live in Switzerland reputed for pretty high prices overall Europe excluding Norway, yet the hourly wage at my expensive Honda dealership was less than yours, not even talking how Yamaha is even half that, so surely VAT difference can't be the reason.

I think doing service in Germany would be smart  :008:, serious but not too expensive !
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Lopez on October 18, 2019, 08:09:50 AM
If I were from UK:

- Pick bike from UK dealer
- Cross the channel
- Go to Alps
- Go down to Pyrinees
- Get to Madrid
- Leave bike for service at dealer
- Get drunk
- Next day, pick bike from dealer
- Go back UK
- Tell your wife about the BIG save you made, showing service price in UK / Service price in Spain
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Djairouks on October 18, 2019, 08:30:22 AM
*Originally Posted by Lopez [+]
If I were from UK:

- Pick bike from UK dealer
- Cross the channel
- Go to Alps
- Go down to Pyrinees
- Get to Madrid
- Leave bike for service at dealer
- Get drunk
- Next day, pick bike from dealer
- Go back UK
- Tell your wife about the BIG save you made, showing service price in UK / Service price in Spain

You forgot to add, eating a great paela or calamar while getting drunk  :001: !

Or you stop in Switzerland and eat a fondue on a mountain with great views  :031:.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Lopez on October 18, 2019, 08:35:03 AM
*Originally Posted by Djairouks [+]
You forgot to add, eating a great paela or calamar while getting drunk  :001: !

Or you stop in Switzerland and eat a fondue on a mountain with great views  :031:.

We should do a "Continental Meeting"  :031:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Djairouks on October 18, 2019, 08:43:07 AM
*Originally Posted by Lopez [+]
We should do a "Continental Meeting"  :031:

Absolutely ! Loved my 2018 Andalusia tour the fooooooood !   :169:
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Rtwo on October 18, 2019, 01:03:41 PM
*Originally Posted by Paulhere [+]
On the good side, you get a stamp in your book.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VLoAAOSwYo5dbQVI/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: Fazer on October 18, 2019, 04:10:31 PM
John Bull Printing set!! I had one of those in the 1950s.
Title: Re: 1000 a service!!
Post by: AvgBear on October 19, 2019, 11:44:38 PM
*Originally Posted by Rtwo [+]
Learn to DIY it would be my advice
Major servicing is a great and rewarding task over a cold and wet winter weekend
Minor stuff can easily be done as you go
You learn an awful lot about your bike and it gets much better care and attention than any dealer will ever give it
A nice sentiment  --but, I fear those days are behind us?
I agree, tho (somewhat) about the minor stuff.
Mr. Haynes has a chapter on Routine maintenance and Servicing in which he lists the maintenance schedule and tasks needed to be performed -- basically intended for the home mechanic / DIYer.
Included w/each task is a Degree of Difficulty symbol -- from 1 wrench (easy) to 5 wrenches (very difficult). The majority of the tasks are 1 wrench (suitable for novice with little experience) or 2 wrenches (suitable for beginner with some experience). But some: Valve Clearances, Idle Speed and Throttle Body Synchronisation, and Engine Management System are 4 and 5 wrenches (Difficult, suitable for experienced DIY mechanic and Very Difficult, suitable for expert DIY or professional).
I fear not many have the requisite skills nor tools for required for the serious business of modern motorbike servicing? Notwithstanding, the everyday checks addressed in the Rider's Manual.

Something not mentioned, so-far: Service Contracts -- pre-paid agreements between riders and shops for service work done over a period of time. Popular for some...  :084: