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Title: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: matt748 on June 28, 2020, 10:18:04 AM
Hi guys. Just for a bit of fun, I thought a poll might be interesting.
For info, Iím on a 800XRX and donít intend to upgrade for the foreseeable future. Reason: Iím happy with mine, itís paid for, itís been modified to what I want.
The new 900: Iíve not ridden it, but Iím not keen on the looks or the TFT. By all accounts it rides really well but thereís not enough there (for me) to upgrade.

Matt :)
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Admin on June 28, 2020, 10:35:20 AM
Only problem with the question/options is that it excludes new purchasers who haven't had the bike before or come from something else.   :038:

Something like "Will you purchase the new 900" (or something along those lines) might have been better instead of saying "upgrade".

Also, some people might not have a negative view of the 900 but might be happy with what they have at the moment as well.

 :031:
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: PapaTom on June 28, 2020, 10:36:03 AM
Same here.
I could have written that exact same post.

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Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Tigermainia on June 28, 2020, 10:36:39 AM
*Originally Posted by matt748 [+]
Hi guys. Just for a bit of fun, I thought a poll might be interesting.
For info, Iím on a 800XRX and donít intend to upgrade for the foreseeable future. Reason: Iím happy with mine, itís paid for, itís been modified to what I want.
The new 900: Iíve not ridden it, but Iím not keen on the looks or the TFT. By all accounts it rides really well but thereís not enough there (for me) to upgrade.

Matt :)

 :0461: I have an '18 XRt and it also doesn't appear to be enough to warrant a change.  :152: :031:
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: matt748 on June 28, 2020, 10:52:09 AM
*Originally Posted by Admin [+]
Only problem with the question/options is that it excludes new purchasers who haven't had the bike before or come from something else.   :038:

Something like "Will you purchase the new 900" (or something along those lines) might have been better instead of saying "upgrade".

Also, some people might not have a negative view of the 900 but might be happy with what they have at the moment as well.

 :031:

I  guess thereís never a perfect poll, but feedback is the breakfast of champions :)
Poll amended.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: rubbertoe on June 28, 2020, 12:57:28 PM
I've had about 15 large bikes over my lifetime. Always one at a time. Each time I sell one and get something new it is for something very different than anything I've ever had. I doubt I could ever be interested in the 900.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: ChrisD on July 01, 2020, 03:51:23 PM
I had a Tiger 800 which I had 5 years and loved it. I tried the later one and didn't think it was worth changing to as my old one felt better. Then I moved to a Tiger 1050 sport and couldn't get on with the handling but loved the power. I kept it less than a year. I test rode a 1200 DVT Ducati Multistrada and was smitten. Light like the Tiger 800 but with mega power and handling. I have however had an engine issue, which I am in the process of getting sorted. I am a bit pee'd off about it so am looking at the Tiger 900 so a test ride is on the cards I think.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: KildareMan on July 02, 2020, 09:31:45 AM
I just don't see the 900 as that much of an improvement over my '11 800. Another 9/12 and I'll be into double digits ownership.  :300:
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: FROGY46 on July 02, 2020, 10:04:30 AM
 my third T800
number one MK1 2011 roadie ,number two MK2 XRX 2017 and today MK3 XRT 2019 maybe  still a T800 but what a change staff in the factory a very very good.
I test the T900 last week for me a new bike maybe .
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Paulhere on July 02, 2020, 10:24:17 AM
There's a good road test/review of the new 900 Rally Pro in this weeks MCN, they say it's a good road bike but prefer the KTM790 Adventure R for any off road but could be down to the tyres. They seem to like the 900 overall. But their average 43mpg & 137miles brimmed to reserve light, :005: won't go down well with riders on here who quote 65 - 70mpg from their 800's.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: fac191 on July 02, 2020, 11:25:32 AM
I read the MCN test aswell. LOL the mpg figures. I think the worst bit was them complaining about the vibes at any speed as i think that has ruined what should have been a fantastic bike. There is no way that engine should have vibes that are intrusive like that. My 2012 Roadie did have some vibes which went away with Rox anti vibe risers but i have a dodgy hand which picks them up. Just for the record my 2015 Super Tenere which had 3,300 mls on it when i got it had no vibes and that engine is not considered run in till 5 to 6 thou. And its a 1200 twin with the same type of set up as the 900. Its a real shame as potentially its a great piece of kit but i think alot of people will be put of by the vibes. I think triumph have lost their way somewhat with this bike and what made the original such a hit with owners. All the original bike needed was some more power, modern brakes and an overdive 6th gear for relaxed cruising most of which it didnt get. However it makes the 2nd gen model a really great used buy with so many around. I hope they get it sorted out as i really like the bike and would have considered one if and when i need to drop down to something lighter.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Newhorizons on July 02, 2020, 11:59:50 AM
Had a look at one in the dealers at the weekend... pro rally or something like that

Has a few neat bits like the front brakes (4 pot Brembo), folding gear and brake, showa suspension (if that makes a difference??) but walked away thinking like $24/25000 Aus is really really expensive.

And the engine crash plate is CRAP.

But just cant get over the width of the radiator and tank/fairings.... its HUGE

I have stripped my plastic covers, moved indicators and fitted a radiator protector and side panels to reduce the bulk narrow the bike and minimise lay down damage ... so with the crash bars and the bark busters I can drop it  (accidentally of course) but know that its not going to be significant damage or costly.

The 900 ooozes 'precious', and don't ride me off road.

Wouldn't walk past my 2015, then spend a few grand cleaning it up to find out I have less power, worse fuel consumption , need to be really careful filtering or scared to take it off road.

At the least they could have redesigned the tank in plastic, come down the sides to reduce weight, incorporated some radiator protection, provided a really good engine/sump  protection system, changed the angle of the rear muffler to allow for throw over bags ... so many little things that 'we' have to fix as part of the investment.

 :087:

Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Tallpaul on July 02, 2020, 12:31:53 PM
I sat on one at the factory in March and it certainly felt lighter whilst stationary, comfortable too. Almost regretted buying a used 18 plate 800XR in January, but the more I ride it, the more I like it.  It's a lot of money to swap to the 900 and I will be waiting at least until next year before I make any change. I will keep watching the ride reports and will be interested to see how early buyers get on with the new 900 regards fuel economy and reliability.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: ChrisD on July 04, 2020, 03:06:13 PM
Theres a good test and follow up of the GT Pro by the Missenden Flyer on You Tube. He loves it.

I like the look and will reserve judgment until i have ridden it.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Kennydies on July 06, 2020, 10:20:48 AM
Hi,
I have just joined the forum to understand the feedback on the new 900.  I am on the tracer GT at the moment and am looking at something different.
The only problem I have is that our local dealership just went bust and the the nearest one is 45 mins away which is a pain.

Has anyone got any deals on the 900 at all or is it too new?
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: ChrisD on July 06, 2020, 10:38:01 AM
45 minutes that's Luxury!! My nearest is over an hour away.

I doubt that there will be deals at the moment. I have noticed that Triumph usually have deals in the Autumn. But Free accessories, low finance etc. I doubt there will be a reduction in list price, given that the 900 is new out and that a lot of people buy on PCP
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Kennydies on July 06, 2020, 11:41:44 AM
It is a rough decision.  The Tiger explorer is coming fully loaded as an offer at the moment which puts it in the same price bracket at the tiger.

I was just wandering is anyone managed to get anything off the list price. 
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: boldie on July 06, 2020, 11:55:32 AM
I was offered £300 of off the Rally pro. They donít have an issue selling them so thatís about the best I could get.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Kennydies on July 06, 2020, 11:59:22 AM
£300 is still something.  That would pay for accessories.
I am also waiting for GIVI to release the kit for the 900.
I would prefer not to have proprietary luggage so it can be moved the the next bike and GIVI is a lot cheaper
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: boldie on July 06, 2020, 12:05:41 PM
Triumph dealer told me the expedition pack is made my Givi but just called the outback range? I took his word for it but havenít investigated myself.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Kennydies on July 06, 2020, 03:22:08 PM
Looks like the GIVI accessories are in the manufacturing process:

https://www.givi.co.uk/my-motorcycle/bike/triumph/tiger-900-20

Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Whoa on July 07, 2020, 09:38:04 AM
no problem with the 900 , like my 800
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Rocket on July 07, 2020, 05:37:55 PM
Had 2 test rides of the GTPRO , loved it and ordered one.

Vibes are not that bad. Bike reviews are over-stating the issue. The new engine isn't as smooth as the old one but the vibes are tolerable.  I decided I could live with them (and I hate tingley vibes) .

The mpg from a mix of motorway cruising, scratching around the twisties,  and town work was just over 55mpg. Same as my GS.

The engine is more punchy and sounds better, plus the bike feels light so is more flickable. The brakes are sharper, and the ergonomics and comfort are good too - bars felt a tad closer than the 800 and the screen worked (hooray!). 

The quick-shifter is an absolute delight. Once tried, you wont want to go back.

IMO, these are all worthy changes over the 800 and make it feel a different bike.  It does it for me at least.


Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: fac191 on July 08, 2020, 06:21:57 PM
Lol it might be a bit easier to keep up with you on the 900 then.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Rocket on July 09, 2020, 06:55:14 AM
I wouldn't bank on it  :001:
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: fac191 on July 09, 2020, 07:05:33 AM
May be when your running it in then.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Billberg on August 01, 2020, 10:59:47 AM
Im with Rocket on this. The great British tradition of running something down. I had a 15 xcx loved it. Got a Rally pro, yes it is a bit vibey but the sound from the engine/exhaust & the punch it has out of the corners more than makes up for it. The handling is much sharper & more nimble. I do sometimes wonder if the doom mongers actually read the piece by the lead engineer about why they made the changes, all made sense to me. As for MCN & the fuel consumption, I'd be interested to know how they got it so low, mines not fully run in yet but I wouldn't be going any quicker if it was, the thing has so much grunt you don't need to rev it. I'm getting 220+ from a tank full!
Anyway I'm delighted with my purchase😉
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: fac191 on August 01, 2020, 12:20:58 PM
Dont forget some people pick up vibes more than others so they are a much bigger issue.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: boldie on August 01, 2020, 02:49:48 PM
As long as it's right for you that's all that matters :300:.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: fac191 on August 01, 2020, 03:15:40 PM
I agree however considering the 800 was their best selling bike and vibes can put people off i dont think it the way forward for this bike.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: snowblue on August 01, 2020, 04:35:09 PM
I agree.We can talk about how vibes mean more to some riders than others all day long. There's no magic machine,they ALL vibrate (except perhaps an electric bike), so IMO if you're after a new ride,including the 900, then go a book a demo ride.  Some dealers will agree to a 2 hour demo. Once again, my choice would be,if at all possible, to demo the 'short list' bikes  back to back. All bikes are expensive, so choose wisely,and try not to get bogged down with, 'analysis paralysis '....life's too short.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Colinhitch on August 01, 2020, 08:47:43 PM
Just back from Scotland, 5 day trip on my Rally Pro. 1574 miles no vibes for me, 900 miles till 6k service, Lake District and Wales next!
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: ChrisD on August 12, 2020, 10:13:02 AM
Well I was hoping to return to the tiger fold with the advent of the 900. However after a test ride I was gutted. I have read the reports, watched Tube reviews and configured a bike on line. I was ready to buy. I went for a test ride and was very disappointed.
the engine felt like the main bearings had gone and the vibes were awful. (and I ride a Ducati!!) Also I found the seat very hard and felt that the bars were too close.
On the upside it looks great and the TFT display is lovely and I think it is priced competitively. Unfortunately its not for me  :003:
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Admin on August 12, 2020, 10:15:36 AM
..the engine felt like the main bearings had gone and the vibes were awful.

Did you report this back to the dealer ?
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: ChrisD on August 12, 2020, 10:17:47 AM
Yes I did. He said I was the first person to test ride and not buy one. It must be me  :006:
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Paulhere on August 12, 2020, 12:29:16 PM
*Originally Posted by ChrisD [+]
Yes I did. He said I was the first person to test ride and not buy one. It must be me  :006:

Like taking a bad pint back to bar eh, nobody else has complained............. No, they just walk out & go elsewhere. We need more complainers in this country.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: tauzero on August 13, 2020, 12:00:14 PM
I didn't think that the vibes felt that drastic, but they were noticeable, and if we ever have daily commuting again, I want a vibration-free bike. I did say that to the salespeople when I got back from the ride. I do wonder whether any of this gets passed back to Triumph, or whether they monitor any of the Triumph forums.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Djairouks on August 13, 2020, 12:26:52 PM
*Originally Posted by ChrisD [+]
Yes I did. He said I was the first person to test ride and not buy one. It must be me  :006:

You know what's funny is my dealership have now a bit of a connundrum, they sell both Triumph
and Ducati, so basically the Tiger 900 GT is direct competition to the Multistrada 950 now  :008:

Thanks for the laugh with bearing comment hehe !
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Jarse on August 18, 2020, 12:13:37 PM
Afternoon all,

After test riding the Rally Pro and GT Pro Iíve taken a punt on the Rally Pro in green. Itís due late September. Had an Explorer for the last 7 years and clocked 31,000 miles all around Europe two up with luggage which have been a blast.

Looking forward to the weight differential and manageability of the 900 but also dropping a good chunk of power. The 900 does spin up nice and quick though.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: mcinlb on August 19, 2020, 08:53:33 AM
My Tiger 800 was in for it's 12K service, and took the chance to test the Pro 900..
Overall a great bike, obvious next generation Tiger, but although I loved the increase in performance from the engine and the nibble feel of the bike I did not think the vibs would be so intrusive, especially at m'way speed.
Now I've had a few vibby bikes, I also run a Multistrada 950 but the frequency of the vibs at speed would very quickly get annoying.
Also the seat, initially comfortable was soft and again, after a while would be causing grief I think.
The suspension was fine and any slight harshness on the front could, I think, be dialed out with adjustment.
I'm not sure about the 7" dash, the 5" TFT on my Tiger is easy to read and presents all the info I need at a glance, I'm not into all the gimmickry included in the new one..
Would I buy one????   Not yet, still happy with the 800 XRX and got it set up just right for my needs..
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: fac191 on August 19, 2020, 04:14:00 PM
*Originally Posted by Jarse [+]
Afternoon all,

After test riding the Rally Pro and GT Pro Iíve taken a punt on the Rally Pro in green. Itís due late September. Had an Explorer for the last 7 years and clocked 31,000 miles all around Europe two up with luggage which have been a blast.

Looking forward to the weight differential and manageability of the 900 but also dropping a good chunk of power. The 900 does spin up nice and quick though.
Have you ridden the latest 1200 Tiger ?
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Jarse on August 19, 2020, 04:22:54 PM
*Originally Posted by fac191 [+]
Have you ridden the latest 1200 Tiger ?

No, I didnít want to be tempted by a new 1200 while I had the Gen1 and then just fancied the new 900. Iím not a fan of keyless either.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: prenticemarie on August 19, 2020, 04:54:13 PM
Looks like the 900 GT Pro is getting a reputation for being vibey ?
Latest road test in MCN complains of unwelcome buzz through the bars and blurred mirrors at speeds above 70mph. Very intrusive they say and inexcusable .... Surely there were other ways to give the existing triple firing order more low down grunt  :187: ... 800 rules OK for me then !!
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Jarse on August 19, 2020, 06:05:01 PM
I noticed it but it didnít bother me even having it for a day. A bit through the bars and bum compared to the Explorer but didnít notice the mirrors.

Motor pulls well and spins up quickly.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Djairouks on August 19, 2020, 09:09:12 PM
Just crossed a buddy of mine who suffered a bad crash, hip prosthesis and both wrists broken, meaning he needs a bike that's smooth, because his wrists aren't as strong as before.

So leaving BMW because he had problems with dealer.

He tried the 900 and told me the vibes at 130kmh were awful for him, he said it's finished like a BMW, but can't live with the vibes, he might try a 800 now.

What I know now with my 800, when I travel on vacation, so big days from 600-1000km do not kill me as much as it did with my Africa twin, which vibed more as it's a twin, but that's a thing for long day riders only.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Nokinian on August 20, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
Hello - new here.
I took delivery of my 900 GT Pro 4 weeks ago. I previously owned a Street Triple, but my last 3 bikes have been BMW boxers, the last of those a GS1250. I decided the BMs were just too big, cumbersome and heavy. I tried the Tracer GT and, although quick, I found it "insubstantial" and more of a lightweight sportsbike with adventure underpinnings and bodywork (ie what it is).

A friend urged me to try this new 900 that was getting rave reviews. I test rode it twice, then once with a pillion. I was smitten. Now, I just can't ride it enough. Here in Sydney, the winter can be a perfect time to ride but we've had lots of rain in the last 4 weeks (there you go) - very frustrating. But I've managed to do about 1,000kms.

The bike is very responsive and, at sensible road speeds, it's quicker than the 1250GS.  It also feels incredibly light, nimble and flickable but feels substantial enough to give a sense of solidity and "security" on longer rides. Another part of the equation often overlooked is how it sounds. To my ears, it sounds like nothing I've owned previously - it's hard to describe. Almost like a small straght-6. I love the sound, and I had not realised previously how that adds to the ownership experience. The Arrow can, currently on order, will hopefully add to that, when it arrives.

People have mentioned vibes. Yes, I can feel them. I felt them on my boxer twins and my Striple as well and I do not charcterise the 900's vibes as materially any worse than them. On motorways, I find that with cruise control, you can take alternate hands off the bars and that gives me sufficient relief from the vibes; just that short break is all I need.

Anyway, sorry for the long ramble but I love this bike more than I thought I'd love any bike and I see it as a long-termer. Just waiting for the tasty accessories to come along, including the blingy ones!
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: mcinlb on August 20, 2020, 09:13:20 AM
After my test ride on the GT Pro, the first thing I would do if I had one would be to try some of these

https://roxspeedfx.com/products/2-pivoting-anti-vibe-bar-risers-for-7-8-handlebar

For what is a very good bike, only spoilt by the vibs up the rev range..
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Djairouks on August 20, 2020, 09:15:56 AM
Funny because I was yesterday changing tires at my yami dealer, we talked about the trails, BMW, triumph and of course Yamaha.
All agreed BMW is too damn big and pricy, triumph was liked, but really the funniest is my dealer openly said, don't get the tracer GT, the suspensions are sh*t and the finishing is not good for a Yamaha.

Honest man, I owned a mt-09 and yeah, suspension though upgraded are still sh*t.

My buddy said it wasn't only the bars, but for him the peg vibes were just awful and he comes from a 1200 GS.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Paulhere on August 20, 2020, 09:31:30 AM
The T900 GT pro vs BMW 900 XR in this weeks MCN, worth a read for anyone fancying a change. They like the Tigers brakes but not the vibes, & rec'n the beemer handles better in the twisties down to its 17" front.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Djairouks on August 20, 2020, 09:40:17 AM
The beemer front suspensions are not adjustable and there's no options unlike the electronic rear, for the price of BMW and a trail bike, that's just a big no no, don't know what got into BMW on this one !
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Matchbox on August 20, 2020, 11:48:17 AM
Another negative for the BM is 15 litre fuel tank.

Also the one I rode I found non-adjustable front suspension too hard. But handled well and very good low speed steering. Engine deceptively quick!
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Djairouks on August 20, 2020, 11:52:58 AM
*Originally Posted by Matchbox [+]
Another negative for the BM is 15 litre fuel tank.

Also the one I rode I found non-adjustable front suspension too hard. But handled well and very good low speed steering. Engine deceptively quick!

And they are Chinese engines, they've come a long way, future of 2 wheels might shift from Japan to China.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: daniburton on August 24, 2020, 07:50:46 AM
I had the lucky to try the 900 gt pro as well as the rally pro. Both are impressive bikes, funny to drive, lighter than my 800xrt, more powerful and beautiful. On the other hand, i'm really happy with my bike and i wouldn't justify the price i should pay to trade-in my current bike to get the new one.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Motopete on August 24, 2020, 10:21:53 AM
*Originally Posted by prenticemarie [+]
Looks like the 900 GT Pro is getting a reputation for being vibey ?
Latest road test in MCN complains of unwelcome buzz through the bars and blurred mirrors at speeds above 70mph. Very intrusive they say and inexcusable .... Surely there were other ways to give the existing firing order more low down grunt  :187: ... 800 rules OK for me then !!

I've had 2 test rides on the 900 GT Pro and really, honestly, I can't see what all the fuss is with vibes?
To me it felt like a bike you could ride all day at sensible speeds, pretty smooth overall, I guess it's just not designed for riding near the red line for long periods.
Loved the sound of the triple, different but yet similar to my Moto Guzzi V twin. I reckon with a slightly louder pipe (or maybe de-cat and stock silencer) it'd sound epic.
Handling wise it was pretty nimble, it didn't take me long to feel confident enough to thread it through twisty back roads at a good pace - I'm seriously tempted.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: coddy on August 24, 2020, 06:21:33 PM
Only a contemptible, selfish, ####hole would add to the climate change danger by decatting their exhaust system because it might sound better.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Paulhere on August 24, 2020, 07:24:09 PM
All comments about vibes, are they kick in at 70'ish mph, about 5000rpm's? Nowhere near redline as suggested above. Nobody has mentioned going much above that, for obvious reasons. A chum tested one, he liked the bike until he took it on a high speed run. Hopefully the factory will sort it.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: fac191 on August 24, 2020, 07:37:17 PM
I don't give a toss about emissions im breathing in so much plastic in London.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Tiggerton on August 24, 2020, 10:11:33 PM
*Originally Posted by Djairouks [+]
And they are Chinese engines, they've come a long way, future of 2 wheels might shift from Japan to China.

Not if Trump is re elected.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: flyingburrito on August 25, 2020, 01:05:27 AM
Harley owner here.   The 900 RP is my first Triumph and first adventure bike.  Grew up racing motocross.

I freaking love this 900 RP....   it is just so much fun to ride.   What little off-roading I've done so far has amounted to truck trails (due to the stock tires) and it's just a blast.   However, that is my only real gripe about the bike....it should have come with some offroad-ish tires.   

I rode a new 800 and 900 back to back....both awesome machines....     The 900 was just "better" in power and handling/agility IMO.



(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/half.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Djairouks on August 25, 2020, 07:17:06 AM
*Originally Posted by Tiggerton [+]
Not if Trump is re elected.

I know about this moron's trade war with China, but BMW is still German, I don't really see them impacted so much, USA's power is declining also with all the sh*t going on inside the country.
The most famous thing he did is kind of screwing HD, because of his ideas, but HD is an American company subject to American law, not exactly the same thing.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Q on August 25, 2020, 08:01:17 AM
*Originally Posted by flyingburrito [+]
   However, that is my only real gripe about the bike....it should have come with some offroad-ish tires.   (https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/half.jpg)

slap a set of Dunlop Trailmax Mission 50/50 tyres on and keep the OEM tyres for punture repair practice and buffers when you work on the rims/sprocket/tyres with the wheel flat on the floor

can't fault the OEM for releasing a bike with some compromises - incl tyres, skidplates, hand protection, etc.

fact is that most "adventure bikers" will never/seldom take their bikes into the dirt/bush - this goes for all makes and is a fairly well established fact

those of us who do take our bikes off-road to do what is advertised on the tin/by the ponytails in marketing, inevitably (and happily) spend time and money farckling our bikes to make it fit for purpose/our individual preferences

I've spent many happy hours fiddling with my bike - from removing the beak (after wiping it out twice) to fitting extra crash protection, Barkbusters, a decent radiator screen, oil filter protection, a bikini screen for off-road, adjustable brake/clutch levers, etc, etc. - and all the while convincing my wife that I got everything at a discount :-)

so - welcome to the dark side - it is likely to be the most memorable period in your riding experience and spending time faffing around with your bike will make it even more rewarding - it certainly did that for me in more than 40 years of riding and makes my 60-yr old body keep up with my 20-yr old brain (some of the time)
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Nokinian on August 25, 2020, 10:41:18 PM
*Originally Posted by flyingburrito [+]
Harley owner here.   The 900 RP is my first Triumph and first adventure bike.  Grew up racing motocross.

I freaking love this 900 RP....   it is just so much fun to ride.   What little off-roading I've done so far has amounted to truck trails (due to the stock tires) and it's just a blast.   However, that is my only real gripe about the bike....it should have come with some offroad-ish tires.   

I rode a new 800 and 900 back to back....both awesome machines....     The 900 was just "better" in power and handling/agility IMO.



(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/half.jpg)

So glad  you like the RP. I feel the same way about my GTP. But I also agree that for the slightly more off-road bias of your model, you'd think they'd have shod it with tyres more in keeping with its apparent purpose. I guess the truth is, even the RP is more likely to be used predominantly on road by most buyers; some people just prefer the taller and slightly more rugged style of that variant.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Kennydies on August 28, 2020, 11:47:09 AM
Hi, quick question as I can't find it on the internet but does anyone know what the load capacity of the 900 is?
I am currnetly on a tracer GT and when  i have a pillion and luggage am at the weight limit.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Aussie Tiger on August 28, 2020, 12:21:26 PM
My local Dealer will always do a pre-delivery tyre swap and has frequently done it at no cost, provided the tyres are still ďnewĒ. Sadly heís had to start charging for that now due to the OEM take-offs on the Tigers being impossible to sell at full price. Nevertheless, for about $100, sometimes a bit more depending what you want, you can still get a set of Motoz or Pirellis or whatever popped on before the bike leaves the shop. Always worth asking the question.

I was all set to put Motoz GPS on my Rally Pro, as Iíve always run them on my previous Tigers, but decided to wait for the Dunlop Trailmax Mission to get here. Theyíre going on next week. I didnít mind running the roadies for a bit because I knew Iíd wait a little while before venturing too much off road. At 4,000km Iím ready.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Q on August 28, 2020, 02:15:06 PM
*Originally Posted by Aussie Tiger [+]
I was all set to put Motoz GPS on my Rally Pro, as Iíve always run them on my previous Tigers, but decided to wait for the Dunlop Trailmax Mission to get here. Theyíre going on next week.

been running the Dunlops for about a month now - both on & off-road - very happy with them thus far and would appreciate your views once you've given them a spin
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: SAC841 on August 29, 2020, 03:52:33 PM
*Originally Posted by Kennydies [+]
Hi, quick question as I can't find it on the internet but does anyone know what the load capacity of the 900 is?
I am currnetly on a tracer GT and when  i have a pillion and luggage am at the weight limit.

From my owners handbook - Maximum Payload = 223KG for all models
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Nokinian on August 30, 2020, 07:50:37 AM
*Originally Posted by SAC841 [+]
From my owners handbook - Maximum Payload = 223KG for all models
Yes, I concur with that. That will be the maximum weight for everything obviously - rider, passenger, and all luggage including boxes/panniers etc.

Kennydies - the Yamaha Tracer 900 is well known for its parsimonious weight limit and was one the things that put me off that model. Yamaha say you shouldn't use the bike with both side cases and top boxes fitted. How crazy is that. No such issues with the Tiger, at least for reasonably average dimensioned folk!
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: B0M0A0K on September 03, 2020, 05:45:59 PM
Nice Poll, but a shame there is no option that lets you choose multiple choice, because some of the reasons I voted for "unsure" are listed in the other options.
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Kennydies on September 04, 2020, 09:10:33 AM
Great thanks guys.  Shame the salesman couldn't tell me the info.  I really need to book a demo on the 900 / 1200 asap
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: pugwash on September 04, 2020, 04:09:02 PM
My opinion for what it is worth as a revisiting member and former owner of a Tiger 800 which I ran for 20000+ miles and really liked before being lured over to the boxer world (RS not GS) and now looking for something lighter and more upright in riding position.
I've dismissed the Multistrada 950 as being too expensive to buy and service as well as the 3 friends I have with recent Ducatis suffering electrical niggles.
The Africa Twin is too big and off road orientated. Does look nice though.
The new 1050 V Strom has been hit with the ugly stick with an engine from the 90's.
The front runners for me ended up as the T900, Tracer 900 GT and F900XR.

The Tracer was easiest to cross off. It was great fun to ride but looked cheaply put together. I've no doubt it would never go wrong but it didn't give me a warm glow inside, the screen was noisy, the seat was hard and the standard side cases were tiny.

I had high hopes for the BMW. Looked good, purely road biased with 17" wheels and premium sports touring tyres as standard, a lot of crossover with luggage and things from my current bike to save on pennies and decent power, on paper. I enjoyed the test ride but found the screen noisy, the seat too hard and felt a bit cramped in terms of closeness of the bars (legroom was fine). It went well enough but needed its neck wringing to go anywhere fast. I think this is why all the magazine reviews report fuel consumption higher than BMW claim and a poor range from the small tank. On a positive note it went round corners well and was pretty confidence inspiring. It was a decent bike but I didn't feel it was up to long distances or touring. The lumpy v twin feel they have given it would get wearing after a while.

The Tiger (GT Pro spec) felt good from the off with smooth drive from low revs, no wind noise and a comfortable seat. It's down on power compared to what I'm used to but what there is is very usable; I tried a couple of top gear roll ons alongside a friend on 125bhp 1200 and didn't get left behind (I realise gearing will be a factor). The handling wasn't as confidence inspiring as the BMW though. I wasn't aware of any vibes until I remembered they were a reported issue and focussed on looking for some and noticed there were some but after 4 years on a BMW boxer not of any significance to me. Others may feel differently.

I came away thinking that, for my own needs as a single bike solution, able to do a bit of everything without compromising too much in any particular area, the Tiger does it.

Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Djairouks on September 04, 2020, 05:02:19 PM
*Originally Posted by pugwash [+]
My opinion for what it is worth as a revisiting member and former owner of a Tiger 800 which I ran for 20000+ miles and really liked before being lured over to the boxer world (RS not GS) and now looking for something lighter and more upright in riding position.
I've dismissed the Multistrada 950 as being too expensive to buy and service as well as the 3 friends I have with recent Ducatis suffering electrical niggles.
The Africa Twin is too big and off road orientated. Does look nice though.
The new 1050 V Strom has been hit with the ugly stick with an engine from the 90's.
The front runners for me ended up as the T900, Tracer 900 GT and F900XR.

The Tracer was easiest to cross off. It was great fun to ride but looked cheaply put together. I've no doubt it would never go wrong but it didn't give me a warm glow inside, the screen was noisy, the seat was hard and the standard side cases were tiny.

I had high hopes for the BMW. Looked good, purely road biased with 17" wheels and premium sports touring tyres as standard, a lot of crossover with luggage and things from my current bike to save on pennies and decent power, on paper. I enjoyed the test ride but found the screen noisy, the seat too hard and felt a bit cramped in terms of closeness of the bars (legroom was fine). It went well enough but needed its neck wringing to go anywhere fast. I think this is why all the magazine reviews report fuel consumption higher than BMW claim and a poor range from the small tank. On a positive note it went round corners well and was pretty confidence inspiring. It was a decent bike but I didn't feel it was up to long distances or touring. The lumpy v twin feel they have given it would get wearing after a while.

The Tiger (GT Pro spec) felt good from the off with smooth drive from low revs, no wind noise and a comfortable seat. It's down on power compared to what I'm used to but what there is is very usable; I tried a couple of top gear roll ons alongside a friend on 125bhp 1200 and didn't get left behind (I realise gearing will be a factor). The handling wasn't as confidence inspiring as the BMW though. I wasn't aware of any vibes until I remembered they were a reported issue and focussed on looking for some and noticed there were some but after 4 years on a BMW boxer not of any significance to me. Others may feel differently.

I came away thinking that, for my own needs as a single bike solution, able to do a bit of everything without compromising too much in any particular area, the Tiger does it.

I am now in Italy, did Dolomites and now around the lakes, getting tomorrow back to Switzerland, loads of Germans everywere on BMWs, 1200 and 900, also plenty Multistrada from Italians.
On my small loaded 800 I "measured" my poor 95hp against the others on mountain peaks and really I had no problem leaving 1200 behind multiple times, seems all the bigger guys know is going fast on straights.
I am just a bit scared now scrapping the footpegs so easily on the triumph, this chassis is ridiculous  :087: who needs 120hp !

As I did ride a lot, seems the 800 vibes the most also around 5000rpm, so that might be a component of all Hinckley's middle cc triples I guess, it's just less present on my bike.

(https://photos-cdn.tiger800.co.uk/GOPR0048_1598971246114.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: mcinlb on September 04, 2020, 06:30:46 PM
Djairouks , couldn't agree more, I covered the same ground on my 800 Tiger and it's nimbleness in the twisties more than made up for the"lack" of hp.
After testing the 900 and it's additional torque and even more nimble , I'm told.. I think it will surprise even more on the road. If only that high freq. vib was not there at m'way cruising speed...
Oh, and what mirrors are these you've got fitted??
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Djairouks on September 04, 2020, 06:39:54 PM
*Originally Posted by mcinlb [+]
Djairouks , couldn't agree more, I covered the same ground on my 800 Tiger and it's nimbleness in the twisties more than made up for the"lack" of hp.
After testing the 900 and it's additional torque and even more nimble , I'm told.. I think it will surprise even more on the road. If only that high freq. vib was not there at m'way cruising speed...
Oh, and what mirrors are these you've got fitted??

These are "Chinese Rizoma", I have seen the "proper" Rizoma and other than the badge, these are absolutely identical, the colour had not even faded after years on my Honda, search on AliExpress that's where I've got them, the mirror is a nice blue tint that doesn't blind as much with car lights reflecting.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32749347900.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dlRgbNu

I had the Africa twin before and fully farkled it was 247kg, also 95hp, I feel I can actually handle these to the fullest, for exemple I have a 2nd mistress, a Fazer 8 106hp and allready that girl has enough to maybe throw me off.
You're so right the nimbleness is key and I won't buy anything so heavy as my Honda anymore !
Title: Re: Tiger 900 poll
Post by: Aussie Tiger on September 04, 2020, 10:07:46 PM
I know that there is a horse power number that is smaller than a more powerful bike but I donít find the 900 lacks power at all. Itís there exactly when you need it. I can accelerate as fast as any situation requires, pop the front wheel easily (if I want to, and sometimes by accident) and if ever I find Iím in a taller gear than I really should be, with the quickshifter I can just knock it down a gear or 2 and away I go. More hp would just mean more hp that I wasnít using.  The power and especially the torque (curve) are way more than adequate in my opinion. Add that to the nimble handling and it would take a pretty amazing rider to get away from me on a more powerful machine on anything other than a long, flat straight. Iíve had bikes that were all about the power but none of them were a complete package like the Tiger.