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Title: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 01, 2020, 12:22:14 AM
Has anyone used these Triumph brand bar risers? I need some risers that won't be a problem with my switch wiring and cables on a 2019 XCA 800.
                 https://shop.triumphmotorcycles.com/controls/id-A9638167/Handlebar_Risers_%E2%80%93_CR3

              I believe anything taller will be a problem, Thanks,  Robert
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: ernie_h on November 01, 2020, 03:33:05 PM
This may not be relevant but on my 2016 Tiger 800 XRT, I changed out the risers to the stock XC risers, which were taller.....the part number you listed is the part number of the risers I installed. Not sure if anything changed on the 2019 models, but you may already have those risers on your XCA. As an alternative, SW Motech made a 20 mm spacer that you can add to the risers [at least for the 2016's] that is a very nice part, but I don't know if that is too much to add to an XC (cables, etc)....there should be other threads that discuss this.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 01, 2020, 03:39:34 PM
Thanks Ernie, what you say sounds right, the ones I linked to look just like my stock ones. I have searched this and the adventure forum and still have no answers. I do not see the sw motech spacers anywhere but that spacer sounds like a solution I would try.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: ernie_h on November 01, 2020, 03:42:40 PM
I called them spacers....I guess SW Motech calls them risers...but they're just a 20 mm flat bar [nicely machined, though]:

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sw-motech-handlebar-risers-triumph-tiger-800-explorer-1200-2011-2018?sku_id=1035140

[they may be out of stock at revzilla, but they are available elsewhere]
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 01, 2020, 03:48:36 PM
Thanks again, yes out of stock at revzilla, I don't see them on the sw motech site but they look perfect, I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: thyg0048 on November 02, 2020, 03:32:54 PM
Just recieved mine yesterday from Germany, voight-mt.de Tiger 800 xrx 15. I chose the traditional 20 mm

https://voigt-mt.de/Triumph-Tiger-800-Modelle_2

Price is OK and finish is super it seems
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: Daveyboy66 on November 02, 2020, 08:10:10 PM
Try Rox risers from adventure bike shop. I spoke with Carl who knew absolutely everything you need to know. He was fully aware of the 8 & 10mm set up on Triumphís. I went for 1.75 risers on his advice on my xrt and fitted a treat with no cable interference. On the xca the bars are set higher due to the off road set up. You will have options but will need to aware of the cables. Also had 10% discount as advised to enter STAYSAFE at the check out. Highly recommend adventure bike shop.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: Djairouks on November 03, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
2018 XRT and installed the SW motech 20mm spacer, absolutely no cable problems 30mm should also be fine,
I had Rox risers on my Honda and I don't see the point here if it's to only rise bars straight, especially at twice
the price of the spacers.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: D6864 on November 06, 2020, 12:52:08 PM
After 8 years with my XC, I tried the risers in the forward position for the first time yesterday. Wish I'd done it years ago! It gives me a more natural riding position, removing the feeling that the bars are angled back too far back so the pressure on your hands is greater towards the outside than the inside. I'd tried to address this previously by rolling the bars forwards in the clamps slightly but that wasn't as good as turning the risers. It also brings you closer to the screen and lower so turbulence and noise are reduced a bit. Very quick and easy to do, and well worth a try.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 06, 2020, 01:59:08 PM
*Originally Posted by Djairouks [+]
2018 XRT and installed the SW motech 20mm spacer, absolutely no cable problems 30mm should also be fine,
I had Rox risers on my Honda and I don't see the point here if it's to only rise bars straight, especially at twice
the price of the spacers.
I have ordered the sw motech 20 mm risers from revzilla. They were out of stock but revzila notified me they were now in so they are on the way to me. thanks to all of you for your help I will post my opinion of them later.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 19, 2020, 02:24:13 PM
I received my 20mm sw motech risers. Looks like there is not enouugh clutch cable to allow them to work. My bike is a 2019 Tiger 800 XCA.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: KildareMan on November 19, 2020, 04:19:28 PM
*Originally Posted by rubbertoe [+]
I received my 20mm sw motech risers. Looks like there is not enouugh clutch cable to allow them to work. My bike is a 2019 Tiger 800 XCA.

If you can't get 20mm to work then the clutch cable is possibly misrouted.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 19, 2020, 04:41:55 PM
Bike is new and stock. I do not see anything abnormal about the routing but I am not going to mess with the problem. After much research I thought 20mm would surely not be to much to ask but I am going to leave this to the dealer when I take it in to the 6k service soon. Bike has about 5600 miles now. Dealer is a 3 hour journey to a covid ridden city. I see a steel and wire bracket that contains the clutch cable, front brake hose and the rt hand switch gear that is bolted to the top of the rt fork but removing that is a can of worms I do not want to open. Been there done that with too many previous mods on many bikes. All for the sake of raising my bars a measly inch! 
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: Q on November 20, 2020, 04:49:14 AM
*Originally Posted by rubbertoe [+]
I received my 20mm sw motech risers. Looks like there is not enouugh clutch cable to allow them to work. My bike is a 2019 Tiger 800 XCA.

mate - I have exactly the same bike as you and fitted the SW Motech up/back risers on top of the existing arrangement/risers and moved the handlebars back i.e. closer to me in the sitting position

also tilted the handlebars up i.e. to align the handlebar bend with the shocks - makes the standing position more comfortable (and yeah - Chris Birch recommends that setup)

all this (and it's admittedly total overkill and probably utterly meaningless faffing on my part) but I relate it because I had absolutely no problem with the length of the cables or having to faff around with any of the standard fittings/clips

thus - if the cables are properly routed on your bike (and from your description, it sounds like they are) this is a 10 min job which even a technically-challenged idiot like me could accomplish
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 20, 2020, 01:32:49 PM
Thanks Q, Just fitting Barkbusters for me was no easy deal. I will give the risers a go.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: Alberto_B on November 20, 2020, 05:17:40 PM
*Originally Posted by Q [+]
... a technically-challenged idiot ...
It's good to know there are still a few of us out there...  :001:
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: suffolktiger on November 20, 2020, 06:35:44 PM
Fitted the 20 mm blocks under my 18 xca bar risers today, no issue with cable length.  Maybe worth checking if clutch adjustment just needs backing off a bit as it could be artificially tighten/legthen (housing) on full lock to left now, I ease mine a turn as I didnít have a lot of free play in the clutch cable.

The haynes manual quotes torque settings are around 35nm for the big bolt, do it to spec first, then smaller bolt is 24nm .  I put them both in hand tight (with Allen key) before torquing to help everything sit square and prevent interfering the smaller bolts insertion; it also help prevent the bar rolling round while you tighten. I tend to move between the bolt (big to big to torque, then small to small) to clamp down slowly and evenly - probably not necessary but good practise, trust me when you had bolts sheer, you become a bit anal.
There is a small cross hatch on the bar by the left hand clamp to help align the bar in stock position, or at least centred; you can rotate to a different position for preference of course.

Iíve also flipped the risers round 180 which, just sitting on the bike on the centre stand, feels great - Iím not sure why.  The triumph bikes at the adventure centre in Wales had the risers flipped and bars upright.



 :031:
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 20, 2020, 09:41:20 PM
suffolktiger-thank you for the help. I have no manuals so the torque numbers I had no idea how to get them. I am concerned about the clutch cable being too short. I guess I will find out when I tear into everything.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: KildareMan on November 21, 2020, 09:37:41 AM
One heads up. Triumph manual says to torque larger bolt before screwing in smaller bolts to prevent damage (thread striping I presume). Putting both in hand tight then torquing the larger bolts down would be putting undue strain on the smaller bolts.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: suffolktiger on November 21, 2020, 09:21:35 PM
Not if the clamp has already seated, the little bolt still needs a few turns to get to torque, so clearly isnít under load.  The clamp opening is offset for this reason.
If not comfortable with feel of things though, do it big bolt first.  Just be aware threading the small bolt can be harder and may need a bit of faffing
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 21, 2020, 10:15:49 PM
Thanks folks, I was going to tackle this job today but it was too nice. 70 degrees no wind, I went riding instead.
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: Alberto_B on November 23, 2020, 10:57:09 AM
*Originally Posted by rubbertoe [+]
I went riding instead.
Always the correct decision  :001:
Title: Re: Triumph bar risers
Post by: rubbertoe on November 23, 2020, 09:42:07 PM
I put on the SW-Motech 20mm risers this a.m. and went for a ride. I like the change. Much less pressure on my right hand with the more upright position. My wife helped hold the bars while I did the wrenching. Seems like little difference in the tension of the wires and cables. I am happy.